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re: Weren't we supposed to be on the moon again* by now?

Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:53 am to
Posted by Smeg
Member since Aug 2018
9451 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:53 am to
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Guy seems really stupid. I'm not going to try to lead his horse to water anymore.

I guess there's really no point in us arguing much either. Obliviously, I wasn't there, so I can't know definitively if we made it to the moon or not.

My position is simply:
1.) It wouldn't have been *that difficult* to fake then.
2.) It would have been very difficult for regular people to disprove back then.
3.) The US would have the motive, means, and opportunity to fake it then.
4.) Based on current tech, it almost seems impossible on tech from then.
5.) Based on current tech, it would be very difficult to safely fake again today and not be disproven.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10187 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 9:59 am to
Well other countries are still planning human moon missions, we can pick those apart when they happen (or don't).
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89693 posts
Posted on 10/4/22 at 1:37 pm to
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1.) It wouldn't have been *that difficult* to fake then.


Okay. Why did they "fake" Apollo 1, then?

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2.) It would have been very difficult for regular people to disprove back then.


But, not scientists in Russia, Switzerland, China, etc., right?

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3.) The US would have the motive, means, and opportunity to fake it then.


This isn't evidence of anything. This is a truism.

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4.) Based on current tech, it almost seems impossible on tech from then.


No. What you're mistaking is capability versus logistics. In order to go to the Moon, a massive infrastructure was built over the course of a decade. Personnel, engineers, manufacturing, communications, command and control, etc., all had to be in place to perform those missions. All that was scaled way, way back in the shuttle era and even then, cost was an overriding concern.

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5.) Based on current tech, it would be very difficult to safely fake again today and not be disproven.


Wait, so what has changed on the "not be disproven" front today? Filmmaking technology has advanced beyond the dreams of Kubrick.



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