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re: Is October when the bottom falls out of the market?
Posted on 9/29/22 at 1:00 pm to Bard
Posted on 9/29/22 at 1:00 pm to Bard
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The Fed's announcement isn't until Nov. 1-2
Might be biggest bet in finance history
2 sides:
Side 1 - With everything falling apart in the stock market and earnings in the tank a belief that the Fed will finally back off and maybe not hike 75 basis points or even 50
Side 2 - Belief that the Fed will continue with its final rate hike of 75 which they telegraphed and continue the tightening carnage
If side 1 levers up and looks for the market to go up, and side 2 is right .... apocalypse now 3.0
ETA: if you’re gunna downvote tell me why you think I’m wrong you pussies
This post was edited on 9/29/22 at 1:16 pm
Posted on 9/29/22 at 1:48 pm to Shankopotomus
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Side 1 - With everything falling apart in the stock market and earnings in the tank a belief that the Fed will finally back off and maybe not hike 75 basis points or even 50
Side 2 - Belief that the Fed will continue with its final rate hike of 75 which they telegraphed and continue the tightening carnage
They've been adamant about hitting 3.4 this year, that's going to require at least a .5 increase in November. They've pretty much painted themselves into that corner.
What could happen is they go .75, but then right after the October numbers come out the have a special meeting and drop it by .25 (but that's ultimately useless because there's such a short timeframe between those two events that the extra .25 wouldn't have even disseminated out to the market yet).
We still have a long way until the November meeting and there's absolutely nothing to indicate things will be better (for the economy nor market) by that time, but likely to be much worse. I think that pain is what they're expecting to see and if it happens as they expect then that takes .75 off the table completely.
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ETA: if you’re gunna downvote tell me why you think I’m wrong you pussies
Welcome to my world. (that statement alone deserved my upvote)
This post was edited on 9/29/22 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 10/4/22 at 7:39 pm to Shankopotomus
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if you’re gunna downvote tell me why you think I’m wrong you pussies
There’s a ton of people that do mental gymnastics when people are bearish as if we don’t have panic in credit markets like every two years
There’s always a narrative for the bulls to cling to. The reality is the only thing that matters is flows and they can and will reverse at some point.
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