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More about the water pills
Posted on 10/27/08 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 10/27/08 at 1:39 pm
Saints | Nesbit tested positive for water pills
Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:06:30 -0700
The San Francisco Chronicle reports New Orleans Saints OG Jamar Nesbit also tested positive for water pills but took his four-game suspension a month ago. Nesbit's positive test came back earlier than other players who tested positive, according to sources.
Saints | Suspension appeal will be heard in November
Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:17:03 -0700
Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports New Orleans Saints RB Deuce McAllister, DL Charles Grant and DL Will Smith have decided to band together and appeal their suspension as one. All three players have tested positive for a water pill and face a four-game suspension. Their appeal will be heard in the middle of November.
Mon, 27 Oct 2008 09:06:30 -0700
The San Francisco Chronicle reports New Orleans Saints OG Jamar Nesbit also tested positive for water pills but took his four-game suspension a month ago. Nesbit's positive test came back earlier than other players who tested positive, according to sources.
Saints | Suspension appeal will be heard in November
Sun, 26 Oct 2008 10:17:03 -0700
Jay Glazer, of FOXSports.com, reports New Orleans Saints RB Deuce McAllister, DL Charles Grant and DL Will Smith have decided to band together and appeal their suspension as one. All three players have tested positive for a water pill and face a four-game suspension. Their appeal will be heard in the middle of November.
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Posted on 10/27/08 at 1:44 pm to PokerChamp21
Well if they do get suspended, it won't be for at least 15-20 more days
Posted on 10/27/08 at 1:49 pm to Gugich22
Suspensions take effect immediately after they are handed down right? No chance we can push them back to beginning of next year? Although I'm not sure what would be the better situation, unless Deuce and one of the other two aren't with the team next year.
Posted on 10/27/08 at 1:51 pm to 3HourTour
they have the right to appeal so they can't suspend them until after the hearing
Posted on 10/27/08 at 1:51 pm to 3HourTour
As soon as the appeals are taken care of the suspension begins. If they are suspended before the falcons game, then we would not see them in a game until the next falcons game.
Posted on 10/27/08 at 1:57 pm to lsu31always
i hate the idea of water pills being banned...
Posted on 10/27/08 at 2:00 pm to lsu31always
it really sounds like they have a case...
LINK
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On Sunday, ESPN’s Chris Mortensen reported that several of the players who have tested positive are considering a suit against the manufacturer of “StarCaps,” a weight-loss supplement that allegedly does not disclose on its label the presence of Bumetanide. A November 2007 entry on the National Center for Biotechnology Information’s web site disclosed that Bumetanide was found in the StarCaps product.
Posted on 10/27/08 at 2:03 pm to Gugich22
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it really sounds like they have a case...
not with regards to the suspension. maybe with regards to loss of wages against the manufacturer.
Posted on 10/27/08 at 2:06 pm to Chad504boy
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not with regards to the suspension. maybe with regards to loss of wages against the manufacturer.
well if deuce did petition the league office about the pills 3 years ago, and they OK'd them...you never know
Posted on 10/27/08 at 2:09 pm to Gugich22
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well if deuce did petition the league office about the pills 3 years ago, and they OK'd them...you never know
where's it talk about that?
Posted on 10/27/08 at 2:12 pm to Gugich22
I just don't understand how a "dietary supplement"(starcaps) can contain a medication that requires a prescription by law....I understand a "natural" ingredient that has properties of a drug, in example white willow bark has aspirin properties, but to have bumex in it is against the law! Ive pulled up various websites and see no BUMEX(bumetanide) in the list of ingredients.... WTF!!
Posted on 10/27/08 at 2:15 pm to chieftiger
i just dont see deuce ever doing anything against the law, guy's been a standup guy his whole life. and now he wants to do somehting illegal. i just think somehtings wrong with the whole thing.
Posted on 10/27/08 at 2:15 pm to chieftiger
who said this drug was against the law?
Posted on 10/27/08 at 2:23 pm to Chad504boy
well without a prescription it is....
Posted on 10/27/08 at 2:43 pm to chieftiger
NFL live just made it seem like they are in the clear.
The Saints called the illegal substance hotline and the hotline did not tell them the pills were on the banned substance list.
The Saints called the illegal substance hotline and the hotline did not tell them the pills were on the banned substance list.
Posted on 10/27/08 at 2:49 pm to ATLienTiger
how is a hotline supposed to tell them if specific pills are banned or not. New pills are created every day. I think the NFL makes it very clear what substances to stay away from and its your responsibility to stay away from them. I'd be shocked if this was waived.
Posted on 10/27/08 at 3:26 pm to Chad504boy
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how is a hotline supposed to tell them if specific pills are banned or not.
Well, the "hotline" in question, is an NFL-sponsored source where players can call and check if certain supplements would contain substances that are banned. As I heard it, Michael Smith, on NFL Live, reported that at least the three Saints players called the hotline and were told that the supplement was ok. If this report is true, the point is that the players did their due dilligence and should not be penalized.
Posted on 10/27/08 at 3:29 pm to Chad504boy
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how is a hotline supposed to tell them if specific pills are banned or not. New pills are created every day. I think the NFL makes it very clear what substances to stay away from and its your responsibility to stay away from them. I'd be shocked if this was waived.
If the substance they tested positive for wasn't fully disclosed by the manufacturer, how in the hell are they supposed know that they was digesting a banned substance??
Posted on 10/27/08 at 3:30 pm to LSUsaintsfanla
coming off of knee surgery def will make you do whatever it takes to get back out there
Posted on 10/27/08 at 4:17 pm to Gugich22
with Deuce going to appeal it and the case being heard in the middle of November, Reggie may be back if Deuce is still suspended in Dec.
In the case of Will Smith and Charles Grant is the suspension 4 weeks or 4 games? with us having a bye week they would only miss 3 games.
If 4 weeks... one or the other should take it now and the other should appeal. So we don't have both starting DE's suspended at the same time.
In the case of Will Smith and Charles Grant is the suspension 4 weeks or 4 games? with us having a bye week they would only miss 3 games.
If 4 weeks... one or the other should take it now and the other should appeal. So we don't have both starting DE's suspended at the same time.
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