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seeking better educated opinions on high yield dividend ETF bond funds

Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:57 pm
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 2:57 pm
im expecting a huge market correction after the election because i feel they are artificially keeping oil prices low and stocks inflated so people dont blame democrats so they will still vote for them.

with that mindset i am wondering when to expect the correction to be over? could it be over and done by after christmas, or maybe the first quarter of 2023, or could the market correction extend into summer of 2023 and not bottom until fall of 2023 as inflation runs wild and oil goes back to $6 a gallon?

im not messing with regular stocks, that shite is too rigged by market manipulators so no reason matter if those go up or down, its just which stocks they choose to trade and manipulate each day.

im mainly looking at high yield dividend ETF bond funds to invest in but not sure at what point to get in other then now is definitely not the time until the market corrects.

and yes i know this is kinda like asking where the bottom is, which no one can really know, but whats a point to expect it to be the best bet to step back in?
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 3:00 pm
Posted by IMJ127
Death Valley
Member since Jul 2011
3637 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 3:11 pm to
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im not messing with regular stocks, that shite is too rigged by market manipulators so no reason matter if those go up or down


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dividend ETF bond funds


same

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rigged by market manipulators
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 3:14 pm to
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same

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rigged by market manipulators



yes i have seen some of that as well with the high yield dividend ETF bond funds, but thankfully the manipulation of those is not nearly as bad as with regular stocks
This post was edited on 8/20/22 at 3:16 pm
Posted by tirebiter
7K R&G chile land aka SF
Member since Oct 2006
10727 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 3:23 pm to
Disregarding your supposed expectations about a huge market correction based on some future uncertain political events, you have missed a great opportunity for HY fixed income investments from mid-June to mid-July already, that is what long term dithering around gets you. Let's see, pay off a 1.625% ARM in late June or buy a CEF holding leveraged HY bonds yielding 10.20%.
Posted by UltimaParadox
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2008
51572 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 7:44 pm to
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but whats a point to expect it to be the best bet to step back in?


Since you have all the answers you should tell us... Isn't that the point of this thread is for you to tell us the market is going to crash.
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 8/20/22 at 8:02 pm to
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i feel they are artificially keeping oil prices low and stocks inflated


Why exactly are “they”?

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and oil goes back to $6 a gallon?


Might want to double check you math because whatever you’re trying to say here, it doesn’t make sense.

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im not messing with regular stocks, that shite is too rigged by market manipulators so no reason matter if those go up or down, its just which stocks they choose to trade and manipulate each day.


Again, who are “they”?

Sounds like you really have no clue what you’re doing in the market. I’d suggest letting a professional handle it for you before you end up doing significant damage to your retirement plans.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 2:04 pm to
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Sounds like you really have no clue what you’re doing in the market. I’d suggest letting a professional handle it for you before you end up doing significant damage to your retirement plans.



i dont pretend to know anything, i know enough to know i dont know enough, so i ask questions.

i do follow trends, and its undeniable that leading up to every election with the democrats in charge, they manipulate things to lower gas prices, and make the market go up, all so people are less likely to not vote them back into office. and when that election is over things go right back to being just as bad, if not much worse, then they were before the election happened.

thats why im expecting a huge correction when things go back to normal with $6 a gallon gas and out of control inflation.

i came here hoping to get advice on the big picture and what to watch for as a point to get back into the markets if that be after this 4th quarter or would it be more likely to look for it to correct in the 1st quarter next year.

it seems however i was wrong about thinking this forum was a place to get some reasonably decent advice from, but it seems guys just come here to brag about making money
This post was edited on 8/21/22 at 2:11 pm
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
7214 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 3:09 pm to
I believe what they are saying is that making investment decisions strictly based on strongly held political views and nebulous conspiracy theories tends to be a bad idea.

And as to your question, it's like saying that I know the Packers will make the playoffs but I need you guys to tell me what round they will lose in.
This post was edited on 8/21/22 at 3:28 pm
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 5:12 pm to
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I believe what they are saying is that making investment decisions strictly based on strongly held political views and nebulous conspiracy theories tends to be a bad idea.


well it is not a conspiracy theory, when its a documented and repeatable fact that happens every election cycle. step one to investing is being aware and noticing repeatable regular events that influences the markets.

every election cycle, the market manipulators inflate or deflate things depending on who is in power, and after the elections are over, they go back to normal conditions dictated by reality, to where the markets were at 8 months or so before the election.

its not even a statement about politics, but if someone chooses not to see, or even admit that, then thats pretty bad.

just look at the historical charts and it cannot be denied. look at the markets leading up to each election and you will see it.

this wasnt meant to be a political question, even though that seems to be how its viewed

Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 5:42 pm to
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well it is not a conspiracy theory, when its a documented and repeatable fact that happens every election cycle.


Please provide a link that proves what you’re actually claiming here.

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every election cycle, the market manipulators inflate or deflate things depending on who is in power, and after the elections are over, they go back to normal conditions dictated by reality, to where the markets were at 8 months or so before the election.


Again, please provide some proof to this claim.

What you’re actually claiming here is actually quite laughable
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 6:12 pm to
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What you’re actually claiming here is actually quite laughable



if you literally cannot recognize the way markets react to election cycles then it sounds like you really have no clue what you’re doing in the market. I’d suggest letting a professional handle it for you before you end up doing significant damage to your retirement plans.
This post was edited on 8/21/22 at 6:32 pm
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 6:38 pm to
Posted by iAmBatman
The Batcave
Member since Mar 2011
12382 posts
Posted on 8/21/22 at 6:42 pm to
LINK

Looks like it’s gone up no matter who’s in charge
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