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Question on Home Theater AV Receivers
Posted on 8/9/22 at 12:46 pm
Posted on 8/9/22 at 12:46 pm
I have an old Yamaha V671 Home theater Receiver and was looking to upgrade. Would I be getting much bang for my buck if I were to go with like a Denon AVR-S960H or Denon AVR-X3700H? Would I even notice any kind of difference?
Posted on 8/9/22 at 12:56 pm to RoosterCogburn585
You will get better responses if you list out or provide links to the specs instead of making people go hunt for them
Posted on 8/9/22 at 12:59 pm to SG_Geaux
Yamaha V671:
RX-V671
AV Receiver
Amplifier Section Channel 7.1
Rated Output Power (1kHz, 1ch driven) 150W (4ohms, 0.9% THD); 125W (8ohms, 0.9% THD)
Rated Output Power (20Hz-20kHz, 2ch driven) 90W (8ohms, 0.09% THD)
Dynamic Power / Ch (Front L/R, 8/6/4/2 ohms) 130/170/200/240W
Surround Sound Processing Cinema DSP Yes (3D)
DSP Programs 17
Virtual Presence Speaker Yes
Dialogue Lift Yes
SILENT Cinema / Virtual Cinema DSP Yes
Dolby TrueHD Yes
Dolby Digital Plus Yes
Dolby Pro Logic IIx Yes
DTS-HD Master Audio Yes
Audio Features Pure Direct Yes (with video on mode)
Compressed Music Enhancer Yes
YPAO Sound Optimization Yes
Adaptive DRC (Dynamic Range Control) Yes
Initial Volume and Maximum Volume Setting Yes
Bi-amp Capability Yes
Audio Delay Yes (0-250 ms)
192kHz / 24-bit DACs for all channels Yes (Burr-Brown)
Video Features HDMI 3D Pass-through Yes
HDMI Audio Return Channel Yes
Component upconversion Yes
HDMI Upscaling Yes (Analog to HDMI / HDMI to HDMI)
Deep Color / x.v.Color / 24Hz Refresh Rate / Auto Lip-Sync Yes
Extensive Connection HDMI Input/Output 6 (front 1) / 1
HDMI CEC Yes (SCENE, Device Control)
USB Input iPod/iPhone, USB Memory, Portable Audio Player
Network Port Napster / vTuner Internet Radio
Front AV Input HDMI/USB/Analog Audio/Composite
Digital Audio Input / Output: Optical 2 / 0
Digital Audio Input / Output: Coaxial 2 / 0
Analog Audio Input / Output 6 (front 1) / 1
Composite Video Input / Output 5 (front 1) / 1
Preout SW
Headphone Output 1
Connectivity Dock Port 1 (YDS-12, YID-W10, YBA-10)
Phono Input Yes
Component Video Input/Output 2 / 1
S-Video Input/Output 1 / 0
Tuner Section FM / AM Tuner Yes
User Interface On-Screen Display Graphical User Interface
SCENE SCENE (4 sets)
App Control Yes
Web Browser Control Yes
Remote Control Unit Yes (Preset)
Zone Control Zone 2 Audio Output Line output
Powered Zone Zone 2
+12V Trigger Output 1
Remote (IR) Input/Output 1 / 1
General Standby Power Consumption (IR only) =0.1W
Auto Power Standby Yes
Dimensions (W x H x D) 435 x 161 x 363 mm
Weight 10.5 kg
RX-V671
AV Receiver
Amplifier Section Channel 7.1
Rated Output Power (1kHz, 1ch driven) 150W (4ohms, 0.9% THD); 125W (8ohms, 0.9% THD)
Rated Output Power (20Hz-20kHz, 2ch driven) 90W (8ohms, 0.09% THD)
Dynamic Power / Ch (Front L/R, 8/6/4/2 ohms) 130/170/200/240W
Surround Sound Processing Cinema DSP Yes (3D)
DSP Programs 17
Virtual Presence Speaker Yes
Dialogue Lift Yes
SILENT Cinema / Virtual Cinema DSP Yes
Dolby TrueHD Yes
Dolby Digital Plus Yes
Dolby Pro Logic IIx Yes
DTS-HD Master Audio Yes
Audio Features Pure Direct Yes (with video on mode)
Compressed Music Enhancer Yes
YPAO Sound Optimization Yes
Adaptive DRC (Dynamic Range Control) Yes
Initial Volume and Maximum Volume Setting Yes
Bi-amp Capability Yes
Audio Delay Yes (0-250 ms)
192kHz / 24-bit DACs for all channels Yes (Burr-Brown)
Video Features HDMI 3D Pass-through Yes
HDMI Audio Return Channel Yes
Component upconversion Yes
HDMI Upscaling Yes (Analog to HDMI / HDMI to HDMI)
Deep Color / x.v.Color / 24Hz Refresh Rate / Auto Lip-Sync Yes
Extensive Connection HDMI Input/Output 6 (front 1) / 1
HDMI CEC Yes (SCENE, Device Control)
USB Input iPod/iPhone, USB Memory, Portable Audio Player
Network Port Napster / vTuner Internet Radio
Front AV Input HDMI/USB/Analog Audio/Composite
Digital Audio Input / Output: Optical 2 / 0
Digital Audio Input / Output: Coaxial 2 / 0
Analog Audio Input / Output 6 (front 1) / 1
Composite Video Input / Output 5 (front 1) / 1
Preout SW
Headphone Output 1
Connectivity Dock Port 1 (YDS-12, YID-W10, YBA-10)
Phono Input Yes
Component Video Input/Output 2 / 1
S-Video Input/Output 1 / 0
Tuner Section FM / AM Tuner Yes
User Interface On-Screen Display Graphical User Interface
SCENE SCENE (4 sets)
App Control Yes
Web Browser Control Yes
Remote Control Unit Yes (Preset)
Zone Control Zone 2 Audio Output Line output
Powered Zone Zone 2
+12V Trigger Output 1
Remote (IR) Input/Output 1 / 1
General Standby Power Consumption (IR only) =0.1W
Auto Power Standby Yes
Dimensions (W x H x D) 435 x 161 x 363 mm
Weight 10.5 kg
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:01 pm to RoosterCogburn585
Denon AVR-S960H:
Features & specs
Amplification
Number Of Channels 7
Stereo RMS Power (watts) 90
THD in Stereo 0.08 %
Frequency Bandwidth (stereo) 20-20k Hz
Minimum Impedance L/R 4 ohms
Minimum Impedance Center 4 ohms
Minimum Impedance Surround 4 ohms
General Features
Bluetooth Built-in
Apple AirPlay AirPlay 2
Alexa-compatible Yes
Google Assistant-compatible Yes
Chromecast built-in No
DTS Play-Fi No
App Remote Control Yes
On-Screen Display Thru HDMI
Auto Speaker Calibration Audyssey MultEQ
Multi-room Audio/Video
Powered Multi-room Audio Output Yes
Preamp Multi-room Audio Output No
Multi-room HDMI Output No
Total Number of Zones 2
Playback from Digital Audio Inputs Yes
Playback from Streaming Sources Yes
Surround Processing
Dolby Digital DD, TrueD, DD+, EX
Dolby Atmos Yes
Dolby Atmos Height Virtualization Yes
DTS DTS, HD, HDMA, ES, 96/24
DTS:X Yes
DTS Virtual:X Yes
Inputs & Outputs
Phono Input 1
Audio-Video Inputs 6
Audio-only Inputs 2
Component Video Inputs 2
Component Video Monitor Outputs 1 (480i only)
Optical Digital Inputs 2
Coaxial Digital Inputs 1
Optical Digital Outputs None
Coaxial Digital Outputs None
Number of HDMI Inputs 6
HDMI Monitor Outputs 2
Subwoofer Outputs 2
Discrete Subwoofer Outputs No
Multi-Channel Analog Input No
Multi-channel Preamp Output No
Main Speaker Output Pairs Posts
Main Speaker Terminals Posts
Ethernet Port Yes
USB Connections Y
Removable Power Cord No
Supports Wireless Rear Speakers No
HDMI Features
HDMI Version 2.1
VRR (Variable Refresh Rate) Yes
ALLM (Auto Low Latency Mode) Yes
4K/120Hz-Capable Inputs 1
Audio Return Channel eARC supported
Video Upscaling To 4K and 8K
HDR (High Dynamic Range) Support
HDR10 Yes
HDR10+ Yes
HLG Yes
Dolby Vision Yes
Other Specs
FM Sensitivity 12.8 dBf
Multibrand Remote Control No
Learning Remote No
Width (inches) 17.1875
Height (inches) 6.5625
Depth (inches) 13.5625
Weight (pounds) 21
Parts Warranty 2 Years
Labor Warranty 2 Years
Features & specs
Amplification
Number Of Channels 7
Stereo RMS Power (watts) 90
THD in Stereo 0.08 %
Frequency Bandwidth (stereo) 20-20k Hz
Minimum Impedance L/R 4 ohms
Minimum Impedance Center 4 ohms
Minimum Impedance Surround 4 ohms
General Features
Bluetooth Built-in
Apple AirPlay AirPlay 2
Alexa-compatible Yes
Google Assistant-compatible Yes
Chromecast built-in No
DTS Play-Fi No
App Remote Control Yes
On-Screen Display Thru HDMI
Auto Speaker Calibration Audyssey MultEQ
Multi-room Audio/Video
Powered Multi-room Audio Output Yes
Preamp Multi-room Audio Output No
Multi-room HDMI Output No
Total Number of Zones 2
Playback from Digital Audio Inputs Yes
Playback from Streaming Sources Yes
Surround Processing
Dolby Digital DD, TrueD, DD+, EX
Dolby Atmos Yes
Dolby Atmos Height Virtualization Yes
DTS DTS, HD, HDMA, ES, 96/24
DTS:X Yes
DTS Virtual:X Yes
Inputs & Outputs
Phono Input 1
Audio-Video Inputs 6
Audio-only Inputs 2
Component Video Inputs 2
Component Video Monitor Outputs 1 (480i only)
Optical Digital Inputs 2
Coaxial Digital Inputs 1
Optical Digital Outputs None
Coaxial Digital Outputs None
Number of HDMI Inputs 6
HDMI Monitor Outputs 2
Subwoofer Outputs 2
Discrete Subwoofer Outputs No
Multi-Channel Analog Input No
Multi-channel Preamp Output No
Main Speaker Output Pairs Posts
Main Speaker Terminals Posts
Ethernet Port Yes
USB Connections Y
Removable Power Cord No
Supports Wireless Rear Speakers No
HDMI Features
HDMI Version 2.1
VRR (Variable Refresh Rate) Yes
ALLM (Auto Low Latency Mode) Yes
4K/120Hz-Capable Inputs 1
Audio Return Channel eARC supported
Video Upscaling To 4K and 8K
HDR (High Dynamic Range) Support
HDR10 Yes
HDR10+ Yes
HLG Yes
Dolby Vision Yes
Other Specs
FM Sensitivity 12.8 dBf
Multibrand Remote Control No
Learning Remote No
Width (inches) 17.1875
Height (inches) 6.5625
Depth (inches) 13.5625
Weight (pounds) 21
Parts Warranty 2 Years
Labor Warranty 2 Years
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:03 pm to RoosterCogburn585
Denon AVR-3700
Features & specs
Amplification
Number Of Channels 9
Stereo RMS Power (watts) 105
THD in Stereo 0.08 %
Frequency Bandwidth (stereo) 20-20k Hz
Minimum Impedance L/R 4 ohms
Minimum Impedance Center 4 ohms
Minimum Impedance Surround 4 ohms
General Features
Bluetooth Built-in
Apple AirPlay AirPlay 2
Alexa-compatible Yes
Google Assistant-compatible Yes
Chromecast built-in No
DTS Play-Fi No
App Remote Control Yes
On-Screen Display Thru HDMI
Auto Speaker Calibration Audyssey MultEQ XT32
Multi-room Audio/Video
Powered Multi-room Audio Output Yes
Preamp Multi-room Audio Output Yes
Multi-room HDMI Output Yes
Total Number of Zones 2
Playback from Digital Audio Inputs Yes
Playback from Streaming Sources Yes
Surround Processing
Dolby Digital DD, TrueHD, DD+, EX
Dolby Atmos Yes
Dolby Atmos Height Virtualization Yes
DTS DTS, HD, HDMA, ES, 96/24
DTS:X Yes
DTS Virtual:X Yes
Inputs & Outputs
Phono Input 1
Audio-Video Inputs 7
Audio-only Inputs 2
Component Video Inputs 2
Component Video Monitor Outputs 1 (480i only)
Optical Digital Inputs 2
Coaxial Digital Inputs 2
Optical Digital Outputs None
Coaxial Digital Outputs None
Number of HDMI Inputs 7
HDMI Monitor Outputs 3
Subwoofer Outputs 2
Discrete Subwoofer Outputs Yes
Multi-Channel Analog Input No
Multi-channel Preamp Output Yes
Main Speaker Output Pairs Posts
Main Speaker Terminals Posts
Ethernet Port Yes
USB Connections Y
Removable Power Cord IEC 2-prong
Supports Wireless Rear Speakers No
HDMI Features
HDMI Version 2.1
VRR (Variable Refresh Rate) Yes
ALLM (Auto Low Latency Mode) Yes
4K/120Hz-Capable Inputs 1
Audio Return Channel eARC supported
Video Upscaling To 4K and 8K
HDR (High Dynamic Range) Support
HDR10 Yes
HDR10+ Yes
HLG Yes
Dolby Vision Yes
Other Specs
FM Sensitivity 12.8 dBf
Multibrand Remote Control No
Learning Remote No
Width (inches) 17.1875
Height (inches) 6.5625
Depth (inches) 15.9375
Weight (pounds) 27.6
Parts Warranty 3 Years
Labor Warranty 3 Years
Features & specs
Amplification
Number Of Channels 9
Stereo RMS Power (watts) 105
THD in Stereo 0.08 %
Frequency Bandwidth (stereo) 20-20k Hz
Minimum Impedance L/R 4 ohms
Minimum Impedance Center 4 ohms
Minimum Impedance Surround 4 ohms
General Features
Bluetooth Built-in
Apple AirPlay AirPlay 2
Alexa-compatible Yes
Google Assistant-compatible Yes
Chromecast built-in No
DTS Play-Fi No
App Remote Control Yes
On-Screen Display Thru HDMI
Auto Speaker Calibration Audyssey MultEQ XT32
Multi-room Audio/Video
Powered Multi-room Audio Output Yes
Preamp Multi-room Audio Output Yes
Multi-room HDMI Output Yes
Total Number of Zones 2
Playback from Digital Audio Inputs Yes
Playback from Streaming Sources Yes
Surround Processing
Dolby Digital DD, TrueHD, DD+, EX
Dolby Atmos Yes
Dolby Atmos Height Virtualization Yes
DTS DTS, HD, HDMA, ES, 96/24
DTS:X Yes
DTS Virtual:X Yes
Inputs & Outputs
Phono Input 1
Audio-Video Inputs 7
Audio-only Inputs 2
Component Video Inputs 2
Component Video Monitor Outputs 1 (480i only)
Optical Digital Inputs 2
Coaxial Digital Inputs 2
Optical Digital Outputs None
Coaxial Digital Outputs None
Number of HDMI Inputs 7
HDMI Monitor Outputs 3
Subwoofer Outputs 2
Discrete Subwoofer Outputs Yes
Multi-Channel Analog Input No
Multi-channel Preamp Output Yes
Main Speaker Output Pairs Posts
Main Speaker Terminals Posts
Ethernet Port Yes
USB Connections Y
Removable Power Cord IEC 2-prong
Supports Wireless Rear Speakers No
HDMI Features
HDMI Version 2.1
VRR (Variable Refresh Rate) Yes
ALLM (Auto Low Latency Mode) Yes
4K/120Hz-Capable Inputs 1
Audio Return Channel eARC supported
Video Upscaling To 4K and 8K
HDR (High Dynamic Range) Support
HDR10 Yes
HDR10+ Yes
HLG Yes
Dolby Vision Yes
Other Specs
FM Sensitivity 12.8 dBf
Multibrand Remote Control No
Learning Remote No
Width (inches) 17.1875
Height (inches) 6.5625
Depth (inches) 15.9375
Weight (pounds) 27.6
Parts Warranty 3 Years
Labor Warranty 3 Years
Posted on 8/9/22 at 1:21 pm to RoosterCogburn585
The X3700H is a much higher level AVR. The biggest difference will be the number of filters Audyssey can use in the X3700H and the dual subwoofer calibration capability.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 2:19 pm to notsince98
Im not quite sure i know what that means? Could you explain it to me? From what you are saying, it sounds like the X3700H would give a noticeable difference?
Posted on 8/9/22 at 2:36 pm to RoosterCogburn585
quote:
Im not quite sure i know what that means? Could you explain it to me? From what you are saying, it sounds like the X3700H would give a noticeable difference?
If you dont know what I'm talking about then ignore it and buy whatever is cheapest with the connections you need.
If you go down the audio quality rabbit hole, you'll spend way too much $ really fast.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 2:43 pm to notsince98
Lol. Yeah I hear you on that one. I was just looking to try and improve the audio quality of what I have compared to the Yamaha V671. Preferably around $1500 max
Any Recommendations?
Any Recommendations?
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 8/9/22 at 3:48 pm to RoosterCogburn585
if the X3700H is in your budget and you dont mind paying more for something you may not fully appreciate it, get it. It is by far the best AVR listed.
Audyssey is the automatic room correction software within the AVR. It calibrates the system for you to help eliminate room issues.
Audyssey is the automatic room correction software within the AVR. It calibrates the system for you to help eliminate room issues.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 4:09 pm to notsince98
This is most probably a dumb question, but what about the X3700H makes it so much better than the others? Would it be a noticeable jump from the Yamaha I already have?
Thanks again for all of the input!
Thanks again for all of the input!
Posted on 8/9/22 at 4:30 pm to RoosterCogburn585
quote:
This is most probably a dumb question, but what about the X3700H makes it so much better than the others? Would it be a noticeable jump from the Yamaha I already have?
Thanks again for all of the input!
Primarily the room correction software and dual sub calibration.
Again, if you dont know what those are it may not be worth it for you but the X3700H is a great AVR.
There are other things for the fanatics like more speaker channels, more pre-amp outputs (for those that use external amps), etc. The DAC is also top notch based on what is currently in the market.
This post was edited on 8/9/22 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 8/9/22 at 5:50 pm to notsince98
I have the X3700H. The calibration features are amazing. I'm actually running 4 subs, 2 on each channel. I would buy it again.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 6:24 pm to LEASTBAY
How would a Marantz SR6015 compare to the Denon? I know it's $500 more, but is it worth the extra money?
Posted on 8/9/22 at 7:38 pm to RoosterCogburn585
It would also really help guide you if you can tell how you are using this setup and what's connected. Is it a 2 speaker setup, 5.1 surround, or something else? Music, movies, what sources?
The Audyssey room correction referenced is something that can help even out your bass and improve the clarity, even if you don't have a clue what that means you would likely hear it. Bass is by far the toughest part to get right and having an automated EQ setup is the easiest way to improve it.
The Audyssey room correction referenced is something that can help even out your bass and improve the clarity, even if you don't have a clue what that means you would likely hear it. Bass is by far the toughest part to get right and having an automated EQ setup is the easiest way to improve it.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 7:57 pm to pheroy
My bad. It would be a 7.1 setup with 99% being either tv, movie, or video games. Hope that helps and let me know if you need any additional details.
Posted on 8/9/22 at 10:39 pm to RoosterCogburn585
Audyssey XT32 is a better version as mentioned above. Likely a subtle difference but could matter. If the 3700 is in budget it's certainly the better gear.
You can compare side by side with Crutchfield, and hide identical features to compare. The X series is a higher quality build than the S series, better warranty and power supply but the feature differences are trivial for most use cases.
LINK
You can compare side by side with Crutchfield, and hide identical features to compare. The X series is a higher quality build than the S series, better warranty and power supply but the feature differences are trivial for most use cases.
LINK
Posted on 8/10/22 at 7:49 am to RoosterCogburn585
I am a Denon fan and have been running them for years. Currently have a x6500h running an 11.1 setup. I’d go 3700 if it were me and read up on the room correction software there are plenty of vids/articles out there.
Posted on 8/10/22 at 8:07 am to NOLAGT
So the consensus seems to be that I would get a pretty big upgrade by switching from the Yamaha I already have to the Denon 3700?
Posted on 8/10/22 at 8:36 am to RoosterCogburn585
quote:
How would a Marantz SR6015 compare to the Denon? I know it's $500 more, but is it worth the extra money?
As far as sound quality, no. If it offers additional features you want/need, then yes.
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