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Saints camp Day 4 observations: Jameis Winston has star-crossed day in front of fans

Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:37 am
Posted by GMoney2600
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:37 am
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Fans enjoyed their first chance to see the 2022 New Orleans Saints on Day 4 of training camp Saturday, and the players rewarded their attendance with the best workout of the week.

The energy and enthusiasm was evident throughout the two-hour practice, despite wilting heat and humidity.

Afterward, coach Dennis Allen said he was “much happier” with the execution and effort from his players Saturday than he was from practice the previous day.

“Our guys are really pushing through (the weather conditions) and competing,” Allen said. “I thought that this was a good, spirited practice.”

Here’s the pertinent information, the highlights and, in some cases, the lowlights.

Attendance
Taysom Hill, Tyrann Mathieu and Bryce Thompson did not practice and were not present.

Tanoh Kpassgnon, Sage Doxtater and C.J. Gardner-Johnson returned to action.

Marcus Davenport, Pete Werner and Juwan Johnson once again were held out of workouts and worked on the side with trainers.

Mixed results for QB1
It was a classic Jameis Winston day. Some spectacular throws and some head scratchers.

The veteran quarterback showed off his powerful right arm with a beautiful 62-yard bomb to Chris Olave during team drills. The rookie speedster got behind the secondary thanks to a coverage bust, but Winston’s impressive arm strength was on full display on the play. His pass traveled about 60 yards in the air and hit Olave perfectly in stride.

Earlier, Winston was intercepted by Gardner-Johnson and Bradley Roby on back-to-back plays during 7-on-7 drills. Gardner-Johnson quickly diagnosed Deonte Harty’s out route and jumped the route to make the pick in the right flat and take it to the house, drawing a huge roar from the fans.

Afterward, Allen praised Winston for the way he responded after the interceptions by throwing a pair of sharp completions.

Three stars
K Wil Lutz: The veteran Pro Bowler was in midseason forms. He drilled all seven of his field goal attempts, the longest from 46 yards. The Saints have limited Lutz’s work so far, but his right leg could not have looked better Saturday.

LB Zack Baun: The third-year linebacker flashed a couple of times during team drills. He had a tackle for loss on Abram Smith and then tipped a pass from Andy Dalton that somehow managed to fall into Kevin White’s arms for a completion. Bad luck aside, it was a remarkably athletic play.

WR Chris Olave: In addition to the aforementioned bomb, the Ohio State product hauled in a couple of nice throws from Winston and Dalton during 7-on-7 drills. The initial thought on Olave was that he would primarily line up outside, but the Saints have employed him all over the place so far, including the slot.

Lineup notes
The Saints are being cautious with Michael Thomas. The veteran receiver was given a scheduled day off Saturday, Allen said. Thomas conducted a few individual drills early and went through pre-practice calisthenics, then took the rest of the afternoon off.

Veteran James Hurst continues to hold down the fort at left tackle. We’ll get a better evaluation of the offensive line when the pads go on Monday and full-contact drills take place. Trevor Penning hasn't played poorly. He's just behind, which is to be expected for a rookie.

Up next
The Saints have the day off Sunday. They’ll return to action on Monday for their first practice in full pads.
Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 10:44 am to
Its funny the team is all coming together, praising each other and slapping each other on the back and then it's on with the pads, the real hitting starts and sh!t gets real in the heat.

I think tempers flare as much from the pecking order starting to sort out as from all the hitting.

Monday should be fun!
Posted by Mr Butters
Louisiana
Member since Jul 2022
89 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 11:30 am to
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Mixed results for QB1 It was a classic Jameis Winston day. Some spectacular throws and some head scratchers.


Ruh roh, Raggy!!
This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 11:31 am
Posted by yaboidarrell
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Member since Feb 2017
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 12:27 pm to
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K Wil Lutz: The veteran Pro Bowler was in midseason forms. He drilled all seven of his field goal attempts, the longest from 46 yards. The Saints have limited Lutz’s work so far, but his right leg could not have looked better Saturday.
Great news. Having a reliable kicker can be the difference maker for making it through the playoffs.

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He had a tackle for loss on Abram Smith and then tipped a pass from Andy Dalton that somehow managed to fall into Kevin White’s arms for a completion.



Posted by fwtex
Member since Nov 2019
3243 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 12:38 pm to
Unlike past years, the camp observations this year should also include the coaching staff. How is the command of the team and staff by Allen? Any glaring differences from Payton camps? How about the command of the coaching staff and the player buy-in.

It all sounds good so far but some observations would be good to hear.
Posted by Louisianabound88
BR
Member since Dec 2016
3623 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 12:41 pm to
He also dropped 1 that was intended for him
Posted by StealthCalais11
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Posted on 7/31/22 at 12:41 pm to
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Mixed results for QB1

This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 12:44 pm
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

Mixed results for QB1
It was a classic Jameis Winston day. Some spectacular throws and some head scratchers.



not possible, ST insists he is the best QB ever and will carry this team to the SB with 150 TD and zero interceptions

it will be glorious watching those guys defend their claims how he is changed and different and is not the same guy he was his entire life

this team will be 8-9 or 9-8 with winston and no better
This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 1:09 pm
Posted by Delusional
Member since Dec 2018
6158 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 1:14 pm to
He's also practicing against a top 5 defense.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
78596 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 1:19 pm to
Drew famously threw a million picks in camp. Kekar is a spectacularly retarded poster on this board. Pay him no mind.
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12422 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 1:24 pm to
You should leave this board in protest of Winston being the saints' qb
Posted by TheRouxGuru
Member since Nov 2019
13514 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 1:25 pm to
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not possible, ST insists he is the best QB ever and will carry this team to the SB with 150 TD and zero interceptions


quote:

it will be glorious watching those guys defend their claims how he is changed and different and is not the same guy he was his entire life


You’re a fricking clown, I was gonna try to offer up a decent rebuttal to this trash but nah..

What an idiot
Posted by goatmilker
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Member since Feb 2009
74059 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 2:06 pm to
Hey keek

How about a 12 month ban from Saints talk if they win 10 or more?

If they don't win 10 then 12 for me.



Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

goatmilker


i am a bigger saints fan then half the people on ST but unlike most i dont lie and pretend they dont have issues with the team

thats what chaps your arse and many others on here about me so bad, that i speak the truth and talk about the good AND the bad with this team which you just want to pretend the bad isnt real and want to deny it and only talk about the good
Posted by msstate7
Member since Oct 2014
12422 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 3:22 pm to
They were 5-2 under Winston as a starter last year, and Winston had an excellent QBR and passer rating.
Posted by Hazelnut
Member since May 2011
16466 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 4:11 pm to
I know you're strawmaning but he can be a decent QB. Our defense is our strong point. They could in theory bring us to a superbowl. If you add in the offensive weapons around Winston and he really just needs be above average to make us a contender. The biggest question mark this year is our coaching staff. Hopefully they can navigate the season well. If they can, we can be very good (assuming injuries don't frick us again)
This post was edited on 7/31/22 at 4:13 pm
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
44867 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 6:36 pm to
quote:

Hey keek

How about a 12 month ban from Saints talk if they win 10 or more?

How about a lifetime ban from all of TD?
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
44867 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 6:36 pm to
quote:

i am a bigger saints fan then half the people on ST but unlike most i dont lie and pretend they dont have issues with the team
No you're not.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 6:42 pm to
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Our defense is our strong point. They could in theory bring us to a superbowl. If you add in the offensive weapons around Winston and he really just needs be above average to make us a contender. The biggest question mark this year is our coaching staff. Hopefully they can navigate the season well. If they can, we can be very good (assuming injuries don't frick us again)

while this is true, winston has not yet shown he can be an above average QB, we all hope he can, but im not gonna pretend he is one until he shows it on the field.

payton had him hamstrung for a damn good reason, and he did ok last year but thats about it. he never once gave you the impression if a game was going badly that he could put the team on his shoulders and get us a win. he is a decent average QB and he needs a good team around him to help him. he is not a top 10 QB and no amount of fans wish casting with make him one, he needs to prove that on the field and until he does im not calling him anything but average level talent.

the defense will be our strong point and the reason we stay competitive and thats why i say 8-9 or 9-8 and maybe they get lucky and steal and extra game to go 10-7. thats just being honest and realistic about our chances
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
38086 posts
Posted on 7/31/22 at 9:29 pm to
God you need the



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