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The foster care system is broken
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:11 am
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:11 am
This is a long post so forgive me, I need to vent. My wife and I took in a brother and sister back in January, the young girl is about to turn 2 next month and the boy will be 5 in November. At the time the social workers as a prerequisite before placement, asked us if we'd be open to adopting as they didn't want to keep moving the kids and harming their development, we are their 4th foster home since they've been in the system. We were and are more than willing to do that so we took them in and the change we've seen in these kids has been amazing, they are almost unrecognizable from the children that were placed with us in January and we've obviously grown attached.
Fast forward to the last couple of months, both parents were put back in jail for meth and gang related activities in April. When the bio Mom went in she was 6 months pregnant and still using meth. How a mother could do that is beyond me. Well she got out a month ago, and has been clean, and had her newborn. Because of choices she made, the kid was born addicted and going thru withdrawals, and apparently she had untreated syphillis which was passed on the newborn, its a miracle the child was actually even born. Originally the state wanted us to take on the newborn but we just don't have the ability to take on another kid especially one that is going to need so much extra care. Add to that, our closest hospital is over an hour away, that kid is going to need to be close to a hospital.
Well, ever since we said we couldn't take on the third child the script was flipped. At first they said they were going to find a home that could take on all three kids. They were unsuccessful with that so what is the brilliant solution our state has come up with? Their solution is to trust the mother who has been clean one month, one fricking month, who doesn't have a job, doesn't have transportation, lives in someone's attic, and doesn't have a family support system to help out to take on her three kids.
We just recently found out that when the state removed the kids, they were in a meth house that was so dirty you couldn't see the floors thru the trash. Our younger girl was in a diaper that hadn't been changed in days, and when the state workers asked where the diapers were the methed out grandmother couldn't find any clean ones as she sifted thru the trash. When they found the boy, he was sleeping in a bed with two loaded guns.
All that to say, they are completely different kids now, the older boy is now playing sports, starts pre k next month. He can actually talk now, something he couldn't do back in January. Our young girl is thriving and if given a chance is smart as hell. I get that the government wants to keep the siblings together but this is doing more harm than good to these kids but because of government bureaucracy they are going to trust a lady that for the last two years didn't do a damn thing to get her kids back, who has been clean all of one month, to take back her three kids under 5. Sorry for the long rant, but I hate the government and just how idiotic they can be because of policy
Fast forward to the last couple of months, both parents were put back in jail for meth and gang related activities in April. When the bio Mom went in she was 6 months pregnant and still using meth. How a mother could do that is beyond me. Well she got out a month ago, and has been clean, and had her newborn. Because of choices she made, the kid was born addicted and going thru withdrawals, and apparently she had untreated syphillis which was passed on the newborn, its a miracle the child was actually even born. Originally the state wanted us to take on the newborn but we just don't have the ability to take on another kid especially one that is going to need so much extra care. Add to that, our closest hospital is over an hour away, that kid is going to need to be close to a hospital.
Well, ever since we said we couldn't take on the third child the script was flipped. At first they said they were going to find a home that could take on all three kids. They were unsuccessful with that so what is the brilliant solution our state has come up with? Their solution is to trust the mother who has been clean one month, one fricking month, who doesn't have a job, doesn't have transportation, lives in someone's attic, and doesn't have a family support system to help out to take on her three kids.
We just recently found out that when the state removed the kids, they were in a meth house that was so dirty you couldn't see the floors thru the trash. Our younger girl was in a diaper that hadn't been changed in days, and when the state workers asked where the diapers were the methed out grandmother couldn't find any clean ones as she sifted thru the trash. When they found the boy, he was sleeping in a bed with two loaded guns.
All that to say, they are completely different kids now, the older boy is now playing sports, starts pre k next month. He can actually talk now, something he couldn't do back in January. Our young girl is thriving and if given a chance is smart as hell. I get that the government wants to keep the siblings together but this is doing more harm than good to these kids but because of government bureaucracy they are going to trust a lady that for the last two years didn't do a damn thing to get her kids back, who has been clean all of one month, to take back her three kids under 5. Sorry for the long rant, but I hate the government and just how idiotic they can be because of policy
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:15 am to AgSGT
It's as if they were blackmailing you in an attempt to get you take the 3rd child.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:15 am to AgSGT
They're actually going through with giving them back to the mother????
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:16 am to AgSGT
I hear these stories and I am amazed. When I was 4, the state of Alabama deemed my mother unfit and terminated her parental rights. Drugs were involved, but nothing to the extent you describe.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:17 am to AgSGT
My stomach hurt whilst reading this.
So it appears both oldest sibs are still with you and your wife, correct?
You’ve shared yourselves, your home, your marriage, and your lives with these babies.
God bless you both.
I can’t comment on the system; but your account sounds completely believable.
It’s tragic and criminal.
So it appears both oldest sibs are still with you and your wife, correct?
You’ve shared yourselves, your home, your marriage, and your lives with these babies.
God bless you both.
I can’t comment on the system; but your account sounds completely believable.
It’s tragic and criminal.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 10:26 am
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:18 am to anc
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I hear these stories and I am amazed. When I was 4, the state of Alabama deemed my mother unfit and terminated her parental rights. Drugs were involved, but nothing to the extent you describe.
This is what I really don't understand.
I assume the vetting process for fostering a child is pretty extensive and scrutinizing. But, if the drugged out parents get clean for a month and go back to living in squalor, they magically get the kids back from a clean, caring home?
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:22 am to upgrayedd
They start weekend unsupervised visits in a couple of weeks. The way its supposed to work is they start with a month or two of one hour monitored visitations, that turns to two hours if those go well for a few months. Then on to day visits with supervision, then day visits without supervision then on weekends and then they are supposed to go to weekends unsupervised as the last obstacle before reunification. They are skipping months of work and proving she is ready to be a mother again, simply to get the two kids living with us under the same roof as the mother and new born sibling. Even though it was implied these kids needed an adoptive family, I get that reunification is the ultimate goal of fostering, but this mother has done nothing to deserve to have her kids back yet
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 10:24 am
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:24 am to AgSGT
Different situation, but one of my daughters friends was being raised by her grandmother because the mom and dad were drug addicts and in and out of jail. They got clean for a short time and so the government gave the poor girl back to the druggy parents who took her out of state and won't let her communicate with the grandmother who raised her for most of her life.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:27 am to AgSGT
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They start weekend unsupervised visits in a couple of weeks

Right out of the gate??
It's almost as if the state purposely tries to push abortion as the best option with shite like this.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:28 am to AgSGT
Just a thought, have you and your wife discussed helping the mom also? What state are you in? Maybe you can help the mother get into a program like adult teen challenge. These children's mother may have been raised the same way. I have witnessed people being healed from drug addiction and seen them restored with their children and strive in the right environment. Family restoration is beautiful and can be very rewarding for you and your wife.
Make sure that you are doing what God would want and not just what you and your wife want. Pray about it and the. Do what God places on your heart!
My wife has been a life coach at a adult and Teen challenge for 7 years and I have seen many lives changed. I have also seen my heart change as far as how I look at these people that are addicted to drugs.
Make sure that you are doing what God would want and not just what you and your wife want. Pray about it and the. Do what God places on your heart!
My wife has been a life coach at a adult and Teen challenge for 7 years and I have seen many lives changed. I have also seen my heart change as far as how I look at these people that are addicted to drugs.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:29 am to upgrayedd
quote:If there parental rights haven't been terminated, then yes.
But, if the drugged out parents get clean for a month and go back to living in squalor, they magically get the kids back from a clean, caring home?
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:30 am to AgSGT
As someone who has adopted, your story enrages me. I have tremendous respect for you and anyone who fosters a child. The foster system is certainly broken. That mother should have absolutely no right to those children anymore. In fact, the state should be doing everything they can to take them away from her, not the opposite.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:31 am to AgSGT
We fostered for about 5 years. Saw a lot of BS at the hands of apathetic case workers and nut job judges. We adopted a beautiful girl and then closed our home down due to a number of circumstances. Met a few good, even exceptional, DFCS workers but they were few and far between, and TBH, white.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 10:32 am
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:33 am to BamaScoop
We live in Missouri. We've not only discussed working with the Mom but we've tried to work with her, that is one of the things a lot of foster families do. In an ideal world, the bio parents get back on their feet and we would act like a safety net for them. At first she was sort of receptive, but after her first visitation after getting out that changed. When I went to pick up the kids, they both were ecstatic to see me and came running to me saying they missed and loved me. They don't have much of a relationship with her, so she doesn't get that same sort of reaction. Since then she has been bitter and has pushed us away.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 10:51 am
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:34 am to AgSGT
Why don't you contact someone higher up the chain and inquire about the decision to skip so many steps? Why not contact your state representative?
Regardless, it's likely the mom will frick up soon and the plan will be scuttled.
Regardless, it's likely the mom will frick up soon and the plan will be scuttled.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:35 am to AgSGT
Foster Parent here. You're right the whole system is fricked.
We've been doing it for about 7 years and every kid has been sent back to shitty parents or family members. Only one kid was placed with a family member who was decent and actually cared for them outside of getting bigger gibs from the government.
The only comfort I have is that maybe the kids that have lived with us will remember how a normal functioning family works and aspire to have that for their children one day.
We've been doing it for about 7 years and every kid has been sent back to shitty parents or family members. Only one kid was placed with a family member who was decent and actually cared for them outside of getting bigger gibs from the government.
The only comfort I have is that maybe the kids that have lived with us will remember how a normal functioning family works and aspire to have that for their children one day.
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:36 am to Jake88
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Regardless, it's likely the mom will frick up soon and the plan will be scuttled.
That may be the case, but I don't want these kids to be there for yet another frick up. They are resilient as hell, but they can only take so much
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:37 am to Jake88
It's the folks up high making this decision, our case workers are just as furious as us
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:56 am to AgSGT
DSS in general is full of petty, power hungry women. A friend of mine recently went through a divorce and custody battle with his ex wife who was caught using pictures of other children with horrible diaper rash she had taken custody of as a social worker. She tried to pass them off as their kids to show that he was unfit to be a parent.
Anyway, you’re correct in that the entire system is backwards. The goal is always to return the children to their biological parents which on the surface is the right plan, but when you dig a little deeper you find that DSS budgets are set based on how many kids are taken into custody. If you can have repeat offenders, you can count each time the children are removed and receive more money in the process. Cherokee County NC to the south of me was caught illegally removing children in violation of parent’s 4th amendment rights…..
Anyway, you’re correct in that the entire system is backwards. The goal is always to return the children to their biological parents which on the surface is the right plan, but when you dig a little deeper you find that DSS budgets are set based on how many kids are taken into custody. If you can have repeat offenders, you can count each time the children are removed and receive more money in the process. Cherokee County NC to the south of me was caught illegally removing children in violation of parent’s 4th amendment rights…..
Posted on 7/13/22 at 10:58 am to AgSGT
I’m so sorry to hear this. I know it must be heartbreaking for you. This is exactly what we were talking about a few weeks ago. The foster care system is beyond broken and adoption is hella high bc so few want to take the much less expensive but emotionally risky foster care option.
You and those children will remain in our prayers.
You and those children will remain in our prayers.
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