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re: Why is abortion such a huge deal?
Posted on 6/27/22 at 5:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 6/27/22 at 5:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:Typical Roger, make false claims, don't believe the truth, and avoid conversation of substance.
RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 6/27/22 at 5:42 pm to Korkstand
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Without Roe, it's about a whole lot more.
Such as?
Posted on 6/27/22 at 5:44 pm to Korkstand
quote:
and avoid conversation of substance.
You cant even acknowledge the fact that people are telling you simple truths, and you cannot grasp.
If you could, you would have ended this conversation hours ago, but you have posted probably a hundred times in a thread about abortion for some weird reason.
Its a cult, and abortion is one of its highest tenets.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 5:46 pm to Korkstand
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Privacy and government encroaching on our liberties is a big deal to me
But there has to be laws - or chaos will ensue
Posted on 6/27/22 at 5:51 pm to LCA131
quote:How do we handle IVF and the unneeded embryos? Who pays to keep them alive forever?
Such as?
Do we have to investigate all miscarriages as potential crimes? If not, do we just ignore the death of some humans now?
How much will it cost taxpayers to support additional unwanted children?
What will crime rates be like in 20 years?
Given that abortion laws cannot be enforced without violating medical privacy, how deep do we have to allow government to go?
We are creating many new problems, and we have many new questions to answer, all because we couldn't just leave private matters private.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 5:56 pm to GreenRockTiger
quote:We have laws, plenty of them. What chaos has ensued over the last 50 years as a result of Roe?
But there has to be laws - or chaos will ensue
Conservatives rail against liberals about "thought crimes", but their typical projection is revealing itself yet again as they fight to police inside the body and seek to punish those they perceive as "evil".
Posted on 6/27/22 at 6:11 pm to Korkstand
quote:
How much will it cost taxpayers to support additional unwanted children?
What will crime rates be like in 20 years?
Given that abortion laws cannot be enforced without violating medical privacy, how deep do we have to allow government to go?
We are creating many new problems, and we have many new questions to answer, all because we couldn't just leave private matters private.
You are being a bit dramatic.
This might affect 100,000 females who will have to go out of state for an abortion. Most will choose that route. The effect will be minimal to the taxpayer. It is a drop in the bucket compared to having open borders.
Most states which have a large number of abortions per year will have business as usual.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 6:13 pm to Korkstand
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What will crime rates be like in 20 years?
So we should allow unconstitutional rulings to stand because of something that may be worse in 20 years?
Posted on 6/27/22 at 6:17 pm to Korkstand
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We are creating many new problems,
Yep, but a lack of children isn't one.
Allowing criminals to run amok in the name of Social Justice is.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 6:38 pm to frogtown
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You are being a bit dramatic.
quote:*Per year. And what of the other hundred thousand per year in banned states? The ones with parents too poor to go out of state? Will they end up being neglected children or overwhelm a foster care system that only manages a few hundred thousand total?
This might affect 100,000 females who will have to go out of state for an abortion.
quote:Huh. So welfare queens are no longer an issue for the right?
The effect will be minimal to the taxpayer.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 6:40 pm to LCA131
quote:You asked what else it's about besides abortion, I answered. No comment about IVF? Miscarriages? Medical privacy?
So we should allow unconstitutional rulings to stand because of something that may be worse in 20 years?
Posted on 6/27/22 at 6:54 pm to Zendog
Thread is worth is based off this.
What gay little soy boy loser would downvote me?
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 8:18 pm
Posted on 6/27/22 at 6:55 pm to Korkstand
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Huh. So welfare queens are no longer an issue for the right?
Oh look, progressives suddenly concerned with welfare.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 6:57 pm to Palmetto98
Here is why:
1. It’s human life. Respect it.
2. No Constitutional protection for it.
3. Women have enough free choices.
A. No sex
B. Protected sex
C. Adoption
D. She can have and keep it.
4. If I kill it in a car accident I’m charged for murder, but she can kill it up to delivery?
5. The biological father gets no say in the matter. Yet, he will pay child support and maybe get to see it half the time if she decides not to kill it.
Notice I have not said anything about religious reasons because that just blows those evil bitches minds!
1. It’s human life. Respect it.
2. No Constitutional protection for it.
3. Women have enough free choices.
A. No sex
B. Protected sex
C. Adoption
D. She can have and keep it.
4. If I kill it in a car accident I’m charged for murder, but she can kill it up to delivery?
5. The biological father gets no say in the matter. Yet, he will pay child support and maybe get to see it half the time if she decides not to kill it.
Notice I have not said anything about religious reasons because that just blows those evil bitches minds!
Posted on 6/27/22 at 6:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I don't label myself a progressive, but I am always concerned with welfare spending and spending in general.
Oh look, progressives suddenly concerned with welfare.
You realize that the world you've concocted in your head is not reality, right?
Posted on 6/27/22 at 7:00 pm to Korkstand
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Per year. And what of the other hundred thousand per year in banned states?
2020 abortion totals in the US was 930K.
In the banned states it was about 100K.
I will bet you there will be non profits in the "banned" states shipping females wanting an abortion to the "non banned" states.
So a lot your abortion drama isn't an issue.
People wanting an abortion will find a way to get one.
quote:
Huh. So welfare queens are no longer an issue for the right?
So out of the 100K how many will wind up actually not getting an abortion and having the kid. Not a lot.
The few kids being born to welfare queens will be a drop in the bucket dollar wise compared to the MILLIONS of illegals crossing our border. Open borders are costing us billions. Why aren't you concerned about that?
You need to realize most abortions are performed in the large blue Democrat states. There it will be business as usual.
This post was edited on 6/27/22 at 7:09 pm
Posted on 6/27/22 at 7:01 pm to Palmetto98
quote:
Why is abortion such a huge deal?
ohhh, maybe some folks have a real problem with our government being ok with killing babies.
Posted on 6/27/22 at 7:09 pm to frogtown
quote:Are you including only states that had trigger laws or all states which will now ban?
In banned states it was about 100K.
quote:And I bet you there will be very vocal opponents to these non profits who will work to make their operations illegal on grounds of aiding and abetting.
I will bet you there will be non profits in the "banned" states shipping females wanting an abortion to the "non banned" states.
quote:We are 3 days into this. It's been a 50 year fight, you think they're stopping here?
So a lot your abortion drama isn't an issue.
quote:And people wanting to punish those people will find a way to do it.
People wanting an abortion will find a way to get one.
quote:If it's not a lot, then the fanatics who have long wanted Roe overturned don't really give a frick about the kids. This is already known though because it's typically the same people who oppose funding programs which actually help children. If it is a lot, then we're fricking ourselves.
So out of the 100K how many will wind up actually not getting an abortion and having the kid. Not a lot.
quote:I have a better question. Why aren't the people concerned about that working on that problem instead of creating new ones?
The few kids being born to welfare queens will be a drop in the bucket dollar wise compared to the MILLIONS of illegals crossing our border. Why aren't you concerned about that?
Posted on 6/27/22 at 7:15 pm to Korkstand
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I have a better question. Why aren't the people concerned about that working on that problem instead of creating new ones?
Because we are talking about billions with open borders instead of a couple million with welfare queens not getting abortions. I thought you could comprehend that. Like I said "drop in the bucket".
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