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re: Imperial Germany Could Have Won in 1918!

Posted on 6/26/22 at 11:08 am to
Posted by tadman
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 11:08 am to
This is a gross oversimplification.

Germany was crumbling from the inside. Their own workers, sailors, etc... were mutinying and occupying government buildings. By 1918 it was going to be near impossible for the Kaiser to hold on to power in Germany, let alone win a war against another country.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 11:33 am to
quote:

Germany was crumbling from the inside. Their own workers, sailors, etc... were mutinying and occupying government buildings. By 1918 it was going to be near impossible for the Kaiser to hold on to power in Germany, let alone win a war against another country.


While Germany was suffering in early 1918, it really wasn’t until the failure of the “Kaiserschlacht” that widespread unrest really exploded.

The OP does have a point. It was possible the Germans could have forced the Allies to the negotiation table. But the Germans trade a mistake in that they should have focused all their energy in 1918 on France. The truth of the matter is that by 1918, France was itself on thr verge of collapse. The mutiny of 1917 almost brought about this collapse. Had the French army not had such a tight stranglehold on information the French public had when it came to the military situation at the front, its very likely, especially had the 1918 offensives focused on France, that France would have collapsed in 1918.
Posted by prplhze2000
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Posted on 6/26/22 at 7:33 pm to
Both of you are correct.

Germany was starving to death. Literally. One obstacle to the great offensive was food. The Germans would break through and then couldn't get moving again because their soldiers were starving so much they literally looted all the food. Hell, you can read reports at the time that state how malnourished the German troops were. As stated on this site before, The big L'off drafted all the farm hands and used the horses for cavalry, thus ruining his food supply, unlike England.


He didn't understand strategic objectives. his whole strategy was just to break through the lines and grab territory. He did that, problem is the territory he seized was worthless and useless. The Crown Prince was questioning his plans but was overruled.

Still stand by Von Mekenson. He was a superior general but was stuck on the Eastern Front most of the war. Never got beat. Funny how H&L had their best successes with him around.
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