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re: WESTWORLD Seasn 4 *season long discussion thread*
Posted on 8/15/22 at 9:01 am to Madking
Posted on 8/15/22 at 9:01 am to Madking
1. I wonder how I would feel if the season had ended in episode 7, MIB walking into the city. All the deeper Delores stuff left for next season. Better ending? Leave on a bang. Not a whimper which leads to…
2. The last poster kinda had the idea too, it feels like Nolan and Joy have one last level of the game to reveal. The maze. First it was a new level to the game searched for by William. Then it was the search for consciousness by the hosts. What if all this time it’s the search for a way to solve the Delos upload of human consciousness problem? Is that what S. 5 is about? Has all of this been a simulation? We still have MIB way in the future from that credit reveal in S2.
3. Some have said this felt like a series finale. My thought is well kinda. I am nervous that the Discovery Channel/HBO merge thing has the show runners worried that WW is gonzo and they added enough to call it a series finale if need be retroactive. That sucks cuz the show is very thought provoking. It just smells it’s own farts sometimes.
4. Damn I never thought a failing robot giving a “I got to see you grow up” moment to a child it never had or knew would give me chills. That was well done. As a dad of 4. Kinda teared up.
5. I would say goodbye Bernard and Maeve but damn. Anybody can come back huh?
6. I know it’s probably not going to happen but I was really hoping for one last Anthony Hopkins cameo.
Anyway. Onto next season. Maybe
2. The last poster kinda had the idea too, it feels like Nolan and Joy have one last level of the game to reveal. The maze. First it was a new level to the game searched for by William. Then it was the search for consciousness by the hosts. What if all this time it’s the search for a way to solve the Delos upload of human consciousness problem? Is that what S. 5 is about? Has all of this been a simulation? We still have MIB way in the future from that credit reveal in S2.
3. Some have said this felt like a series finale. My thought is well kinda. I am nervous that the Discovery Channel/HBO merge thing has the show runners worried that WW is gonzo and they added enough to call it a series finale if need be retroactive. That sucks cuz the show is very thought provoking. It just smells it’s own farts sometimes.
4. Damn I never thought a failing robot giving a “I got to see you grow up” moment to a child it never had or knew would give me chills. That was well done. As a dad of 4. Kinda teared up.
5. I would say goodbye Bernard and Maeve but damn. Anybody can come back huh?
6. I know it’s probably not going to happen but I was really hoping for one last Anthony Hopkins cameo.
Anyway. Onto next season. Maybe
This post was edited on 8/15/22 at 9:02 am
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Posted on 8/15/22 at 9:23 am to extremetigerfanatic
quote:
Has all of this been a simulation? We still have MIB way in the future from that credit reveal in S2.
I think so.
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worried that WW is gonzo
I would hope that if HBO is dumb enough to not give a last season, that someone would fund maybe a movie to end it.
Posted on 8/15/22 at 9:33 am to extremetigerfanatic
After last night a few things were cleared up. I thought that Christina (Delores) was in another park....turns out she was in her own consciousness.
For a second it seemed like Frankie talking and being near Caleb fixed whatever issues they were having with the bodies accepting a consciousness transfer. He stopped shaking enough to thread a needle..then Clementine showed up and really gave my boy Stubbs a crappy send off. Hopefully he missed his pearl....Right through the damn eye....
Seems like there are a few OG host pearls in the real world left after this apocalypse; Bernard, Clementine, Maeve, Stubbs, Hector, and Hanaryo. Wonder what will become of them?
They really never touched the 'flies' again. After these events I wonder how many humans are left besides the outliers? Are they all still insane even though the tower is destroyed?
Once again I'll be back for the next season because they left me with more questions than I had at the beginning of the season.
For a second it seemed like Frankie talking and being near Caleb fixed whatever issues they were having with the bodies accepting a consciousness transfer. He stopped shaking enough to thread a needle..then Clementine showed up and really gave my boy Stubbs a crappy send off. Hopefully he missed his pearl....Right through the damn eye....
Seems like there are a few OG host pearls in the real world left after this apocalypse; Bernard, Clementine, Maeve, Stubbs, Hector, and Hanaryo. Wonder what will become of them?
They really never touched the 'flies' again. After these events I wonder how many humans are left besides the outliers? Are they all still insane even though the tower is destroyed?
Once again I'll be back for the next season because they left me with more questions than I had at the beginning of the season.
Posted on 8/15/22 at 10:19 am to extremetigerfanatic
I think the reset is a clear sign that they know they’ve gone off the rails and are going to try a get the show back to its initial direction. I complain about the show because I care. You have some outstanding performances by some great actors and incredible potential so I go into every season with a lot of hope. The main issues I have are that for a lot of characters there are no consequences. With all the copies and the Sublime it doesn’t matter how many times a host gets killed, like with Hale this week, they’re back within minutes so danger has become overhyped filler at this point. The other main problem is the constant role reversals. We’ve had the same main 3-5 characters just simply take each other’s place from one season to the next. The only difference is, through plot devices and awful writing, Dolores and Hale always somehow become portrayed as hero’s no matter what they’ve done previously. With one nonsensical line Hale goes from the ultimate oppressor/tyrant to the hero, human Bill is murdered and Hales creation becomes the real villain even though she made him and he’s destroying her world which is basically hell for humans, hosts, Hale herself and Dolores. Sorry for such a long post but that’s about 20% of just the obvious frickups since season 1.
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