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re: For everyone worrying, recruiting isn’t the same…

Posted on 6/20/22 at 10:58 am to
Posted by TheJuicey
Arkansas
Member since Aug 2019
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Posted on 6/20/22 at 10:58 am to
Because Notre Dame has always had different recruiting, due to their schools higher standards. Most of these kids have probably wanted to go to Notre Dame for years and have been working towards this, which could speak to how well Brian Kelly recruits.

Kids obviously weren’t tied to Brian Kelly, but loved the school and wanted to go there. In this day in age, I would much rather a 3 or 4 star kid that loves LSU, than a 5 star that plays hard 25% of the time and is worried about the NFL at 17.
Posted by TigerFanFromBama
Montgomery AL
Member since Mar 2015
3894 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 11:31 am to
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 I would much rather a 3 or 4 star kid that loves LSU, than a 5 star that plays hard 25% of the time and is worried about the NFL at 17.


This sounds like a team culture issue.
Bama, UGA, Clemson, and OSU doesn't seem to have this issue you're speaking of.

Theres no way you can twist the recruitng narrative. Elite talent wins championships... just ask Brian Kelly.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
26705 posts
Posted on 6/20/22 at 2:11 pm to
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Because Notre Dame has always had different recruiting, due to their schools higher standards. Most of these kids have probably wanted to go to Notre Dame for years and have been working towards this, which could speak to how well Brian Kelly recruits.

Kids obviously weren’t tied to Brian Kelly, but loved the school and wanted to go there. In this day in age, I would much rather a 3 or 4 star kid that loves LSU, than a 5 star that plays hard 25% of the time and is worried about the NFL at 17.
Another thing too is that the vast majority of ND's staff is still there and has been recruiting those guys already. LSU's ENTIRE STAFF is new outside of Davis. People may know Frank Wilson, but he hasn't been here in years. People may know Kelly, but they know him as that Catholic school HC up north. Every connection we make is damn near brand new. Every evaluation is damn near brand new. Every offer has to be looked at again. Kids have to build relationships, see NIL opportunities, etc.

LSU has to build everything from the ground up. People still want to see how a guy like BK looks coaching a LSU squad. This season will convince a lot of recruits good or bad.
Posted by Irish ND fan
Ireland
Member since Feb 2022
40 posts
Posted on 6/21/22 at 8:27 am to
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Because Notre Dame has always had different recruiting, due to their schools higher standards. Most of these kids have probably wanted to go to Notre Dame for years and have been working towards this, which could speak to how well Brian Kelly recruits.

Kids obviously weren’t tied to Brian Kelly, but loved the school and wanted to go there.

In Notre Dame's case it's a combination of factors.

A few of the kids, like LB Preston Zinter, grew up as ND fans and were always likely to press the button early, but most of the current commits are not. Guys like 5 star DE Keon Kealey didn't grow up in Florida dreaming of wearing a gold helmet.

Much of the current recruiting situation at ND is down to the new Head Coach, the staff he has assembled and the work they're putting in collectively. And given that ND are relatively new in the collective game, and that their collective won't do deals with recruits (ND being ND) before they sign and start classes at ND, it's particularly impressive that they are where they are right now.

That said, 'right now' is the middle of June. ND may have attracted commitments from HS players prepared to ignore larger up front NIL offers now for what they likely could get from studying and playing at ND, but the worry for all Irish fans is what will happen in December as some of the larger, richer schools realise their recruiting classes are not going as well as expected, and they start to make even more outlandish NIL offers.

This is new territory for all of us and no one knows for sure how it will all play out.
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