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re: Is Jason Kelly legit?

Posted on 6/8/22 at 10:46 am to
Posted by UpToPar
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 6/8/22 at 10:46 am to
I agree that we didn't have a Alex Lange, Aaron Nola, or Kevin Gausman on this team, but we had arms to find two more consistent starters.

Reyzelman has plenty of stuff. He just needed to develop of second pitch. That's the pitching coaches job.

I'm not sure why we didn't give Gervase a shot at a starting role. He made the most sense IMO.

Floyd finally made strides with his breaking pitch, but that wasn't until April.
Posted by ccarrone0313
Member since Jul 2021
1510 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 10:56 am to
Are we assuming he wasn't working on that with them all season? It's not like the whole team was throwing fastballs.

Hilliard throws 75% offspeed
Collins the same
Cooper throws a good slider
Hasty throws a slider
Taylor throws a nice curveball.
Vit threw a great slider this year



Blake Money fell off because he couldn't locate his offspeed and was leaving low 90s fastball waist high to SEC hitters, I also don't think he was the same after that non conf injury. Same with Devin, he loved to hang that slider belt high in a 0-2 count.
I'm sure they spent all off-season/season working on it but at the end of the day if you can't locate it and really trust it then I don't blame him not calling them at the end of the season. At that point you have to let them live or die with their strength.

It's the pitching coaches job to help you develop it, you still need to go out there and be able to locate and throw it with confidence. If not, he won't call it.
Posted by Forever
Member since Dec 2019
5789 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 11:00 am to
quote:

Reyzelman has plenty of stuff. He just needed to develop of second pitch. That's the pitching coaches job.

I'm not sure why we didn't give Gervase a shot at a starting role. He made the most sense IMO.

Floyd finally made strides with his breaking pitch, but that wasn't until April.

That’s not how it works at all. I’m assuming you’ve never set foot on a mound because it’s not as simple as forcing someone to learn a new pitch at 22 years old. You think they’ve never worked with a pitching coach before? Never attempted to throw a curve before this year? Some guys can and others can’t.

You don’t just magically wake up one day and decide you’re going to throw an SEC-level curveball and extend your outings by 300%+ because your coach tells you to. Physical talent comes into play, mental talent comes into play, comfort comes into play, and a lot of other things do too. What a ridiculous out-of-touch-with-reality comment
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24712 posts
Posted on 6/8/22 at 11:01 am to
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I agree that we didn't have a Alex Lange, Aaron Nola, or Kevin Gausman on this team

They didn’t even have anything close to those 2 or a Louis Coleman, Landon Marceaux, or anyone else resembling a true weekend SEC starter except one for a shitty bottom half team.


quote:

Reyzelman has plenty of stuff. He just needed to develop of second pitch.
you do realize that is the opposite of “having stuff”.

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That's the pitching coaches job.
have you ever been a coach? You help the player through watching them and helping him understand the things HE needs to do to improve. ULTIMATELY, it is up to him both physically AND mentally! Jason Kelly is NOT a psychologist. He can however recommend pulling him when he has lost his command regardless of pitch count.

What the frick do you think that the pitching coach is telling the catcher to tell the pitcher? Or what he says directly during mound visits? “Hey, look at that hot chick in section 215 6 rows up”?

He is out there to slow him down and try to help him refocus on his delivery and all of the other little things with the batter he is facing.

The pitcher has to execute. If he doesn’t, the next visit usually gets him yanked.
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