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re: Is Jason Kelly legit?
Posted on 6/8/22 at 10:23 am to SwampBandit
Posted on 6/8/22 at 10:23 am to SwampBandit
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no legitimate starters
This just continually gets repeated because Jay Johnson said it and because we were unable to develop a second a third starter.
Hilliard started SEC games every year of his career. He's not a friday night guy, but he's an SEC starter. He was 7-1 this year. He wins 10+ games if he's throwing on Saturday or Sunday.
We had several other arms on the staff with Friday night stuff, we just could not develop them into a Friday night starter for one reason or another. Floyd, Reyzelman, Gervase, and even Fontenot and Money have Friday night stuff. That's not considering the freshmen Taylor and Lansville.
Floyd started to come on at the end of the year and I think we'll have to rely on him to lock down a spot in the rotation next year if he doesnt leave.
Fontenot seems to have gone stagnant and did not progress much between last year and this year. Heading into the season, many hoped that the staff could develop him into a starter. That didn't happen.
Money looked great to start the year but fell off in a big way. Not sure what happened there.
Johnson/Kelly either valued Reyzelman and Gervase in the pen more than starting or could never feel comfortable extending them more than a few innings.
All this to say, we had arm talent on this team, we just couldn't find/develop two more consistent starters to go along with Hilliard.
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Posted on 6/8/22 at 10:28 am to UpToPar
Why did you continuously see fastball after fastball from these pitchers? That’s my issue… both hits off Reyzelman in the 9th were 0-2 counts and fastballs. Pitch calling was so predictable if you know baseball.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 10:37 am to UpToPar
disagree on those guys having Friday night ace type stuff. Floyd is the closest thing to it. Think about our recent history of true Friday night aces
Landon Marceaux
Jaden Hill
Cole Henry
Alex Lange
Aaron Nola
Kevin Gausman
None of the guys on this years team even come close to the stuff those guys brought to the table. They're capable of having good stuff but not Friday night ace material.
Landon Marceaux
Jaden Hill
Cole Henry
Alex Lange
Aaron Nola
Kevin Gausman
None of the guys on this years team even come close to the stuff those guys brought to the table. They're capable of having good stuff but not Friday night ace material.
Posted on 6/8/22 at 11:09 am to UpToPar
quote:
This just continually gets repeated because Jay Johnson said it and because we were unable to develop a second a third starter.
Hilliard started SEC games every year of his career. He's not a friday night guy, but he's an SEC starter. He was 7-1 this year. He wins 10+ games if he's throwing on Saturday or Sunday.
We had several other arms on the staff with Friday night stuff, we just could not develop them into a Friday night starter for one reason or another. Floyd, Reyzelman, Gervase, and even Fontenot and Money have Friday night stuff. That's not considering the freshmen Taylor and Lansville.
Floyd started to come on at the end of the year and I think we'll have to rely on him to lock down a spot in the rotation next year if he doesnt leave.
Fontenot seems to have gone stagnant and did not progress much between last year and this year. Heading into the season, many hoped that the staff could develop him into a starter. That didn't happen.
Money looked great to start the year but fell off in a big way. Not sure what happened there.
Johnson/Kelly either valued Reyzelman and Gervase in the pen more than starting or could never feel comfortable extending them more than a few innings.
All this to say, we had arm talent on this team, we just couldn't find/develop two more consistent starters to go along with Hilliard.
God you're dumb as shite and insistent upon dying on this hill....
"yeah we had legitimate starters" then the bulk of your post goes on to explain that no we didn't really have any starters.
The only one that would qualify as a legit starter is Hilliard and as you said, he's not a friday night guy....but on this team he was. Why is that?
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Floyd, Reyzelman, Gervase, and even Fontenot and Money have Friday night stuff.
just being able to throw 90+ doesn't mean you have friday night stuff.
Let's let this staff get a class or two under its belt before we say they can't develop pitchers based on guys that were inherited or were transfers
Posted on 6/8/22 at 1:50 pm to UpToPar
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We had several other arms on the staff with Friday night stuff, we just could not develop them into a Friday night starter for one reason or another. Floyd, Reyzelman, Gervase, and even Fontenot and Money have Friday night stuff. That's not considering the freshmen Taylor and Lansville.
That is two different pitching coaches that haven't been able to turn Fontenot into a starter or consistently effective (like not giving up HRs upon entering games) reliever and Money regressed back to 2021 form after a short positive blip this season. At some point it's the pitcher, not the coach. Kelly is fine, he will do well at LSU. Some of these guys' issues are between their ears, not their arms. LSU weekend starters were lucky to put up 3.1 innings per start this season, that is atrocious.
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