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So you're telling me it's not a good idea to buy raw materials from our adversaries?

Posted on 5/12/22 at 6:48 am
Posted by kmdawg17
'Murica
Member since Sep 2015
1528 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 6:48 am
Navy Littoral Ships Cracking

Our government officials are evil, stupid, and complicit for signing off on purchases of steel from China to build military vessels.

They're definitely hitting this country from all angles. Disgusting
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 6:54 am
Posted by millerf43
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2019
457 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 6:56 am to
The article says "design defect." Where did you see Chinese steel?
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
14673 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 6:57 am to
This is a serious issue . When inferior products are used in war time equipment you have lost before it starts . These ships are designed to travel in access of 50 mph and are to be restricted to 17 max speed Ian’s cannot traffic in areas of over 8 ft of wave action . This would be a useless battle ship other than a harbor barrier
Posted by SouthEasternKaiju
SouthEast... you figure it out
Member since Aug 2021
36214 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 6:57 am to
quote:

The cracks in question are caused by a design flaw in “higher-stress areas of the [ship’s] structure.” Although the Navy maintains that the flaw “does not pose a risk to the safety of Sailors onboard the ships,” the shipbuilder, Austal USA, has introduced a “revised configuration” on all Independence class LCSs currently 'under warranty.'




If this isn't the biggest load of double speak...


When were these ships built?

*Wiki to the rescue -

USS Omaha (LCS-12)
The vessel was ordered from Austal USA with a contract awarded on 29 December 2010.[1] The ceremonial laying of the keel was on 18 February 2015, at their shipyard in Mobile, Alabama.[2] Omaha was launched from Austal USA's shipyards in Mobile, Alabama on 20 November 2015.[4] Omaha was christened on 19 December 2015. The ship's sponsor was Omaha philanthropist Susie Buffett.[3] The littoral combat ship was the fourth ship to be named for Omaha, the largest city in Nebraska.[5][6] Omaha was commissioned on 3 February 2018 in San Diego, California.[7] She was assigned to Littoral Combat Ship Squadron One.[8]


** - Yes, the class of vessels
Built 2008-Present
In commission 2010-Present
This post was edited on 5/12/22 at 7:06 am
Posted by kmdawg17
'Murica
Member since Sep 2015
1528 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 7:01 am to
quote:

When were these ships built?


First one was commissioned in 2008
Posted by LookingForAnswers
Member since Oct 2019
297 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 7:03 am to
I ran a CNC mill and when materials were delivered we were told to reject all iron from China because tools were cracking on the job sites. Of course that’s when Obama limited our steel manufacturing
Posted by squid_hunt
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2021
11272 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 7:10 am to
Ok, ok, but what if we cut off our own energy supplies first to satisfy a bunch of spoiled rich college educated morons.
Posted by baybeefeetz
Member since Sep 2009
32323 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 7:10 am to
Why the frick do hou put a space before your periods? You must be a foreigner.
Posted by Nosevens
Member since Apr 2019
14673 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 7:16 am to
Because unlike you make mistakes when I type. Does this make you feel better seeing it correctly?
Posted by Jack Daniel
Gold member
Member since Feb 2013
27516 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 7:29 am to
Everyone in the private construction industry knows to not use Chinese steel
Posted by Slevin7
Member since Sep 2015
2480 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 7:34 am to
I don’t know if y’all remember but a little while ago the lady in charge of contracting steel for submarines was essentially pencil whipping the test section on steel for submarines. She’s been in her position for a long time. Like 30 years if I recall.

Haven’t heard what happened to her. Probably nothing.

She should have been shot.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
17003 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 7:36 am to
quote:

Our government officials are evil, stupid, and complicit for signing off on purchases of steel from China to build military vessels. They're definitely hitting this country from all angles. Disgusting

This was warned about years ago, but we were told it was a conspiracy theory.

Also might want to check where the steel for our bridges and buildings have been sourced from…
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
101831 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 7:49 am to
The Clitoral Combat Ship (USS Man In The Boat) was a bad idea to begin with IIRC before you get into material sourcing.
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
86962 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 8:32 am to
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Why the frick do hou put a space before your periods? You must be a foreigner.


Noticed that as well. Thought it was a formatting issue.
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54755 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:15 am to
From the article:

quote:

The cracks in question are caused by a design flaw in “higher-stress areas of the [ship’s] structure.”


Design flaw, not material flaw.

I tried to find a good article on US naval steel sources and was unable to find anything definitive. I did find one article about the navy contracting for steel with an alabama foundry ( LINK) and an article about a foundry in WA that produced substandard steel and a metalurgist there that went to jail ( LINK). But nothing about the US Navy using chinese steel.
Posted by lsujunky
Down By The River
Member since Jun 2011
2512 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 9:35 am to
quote:

the Independence class ships have an aluminum hull and trimaran design


Those boats are made out of aluminum. Hence the reason they can do 50mph. But I beat it still came for china.
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