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re: Is abortion murder?

Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:21 pm to
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:21 pm to
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Because you can't get very far on your own.


That’s just a question of pragmatism, not morality, and many people think it’s more pragmatic to look out for #1. Criminals violate the social order all the time because they logically care about their personal well-being, not anybody else’s. Many of them are quite successful and stupid rich, as are many con men like Joel Osteen. Nothing wrong with that, right? They’re rich, they’re happy, and in 100 years it won’t matter even a little bit how they made their money.
Posted by Roger Klarvin
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Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:25 pm to
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That’s just a question of pragmatism, not morality, and many people think it’s more pragmatic to look out for #1. Criminals violate the social order all the time because they logically care about their personal well-being, not anybody else’s. Many of them are quite successful and stupid rich, as are many con men like Joel Osteen. Nothing wrong with that, right? They’re rich, they’re happy, and in 100 years it won’t matter even a little bit how they made their money.


There’s a reason the vast majority of humans don’t commit violent crimes. We know that violent criminals are far more likely to exhibit certain genetic and psychosocial deviations from the norm that predispose to that behavior and those behaviors are selected against in a social society. Simply put, violent criminals are less successful at passing on their genetic information. If they weren’t the case society couldn’t exist as it does, and it does exist in part because of selective pressure.

The rest of your post is just a highly intelligent species developing the ability to hack the system. That doesn’t change the reality of the system though.
This post was edited on 5/4/22 at 9:26 pm
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21848 posts
Posted on 5/4/22 at 9:37 pm to
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That’s just a question of pragmatism, not morality,


Let me guess, you're also going to argue that a society that follows Christian tenets will be extremely prosperous and happy?

I guess it's just a coincidence that pragmatism and morality are virtually a circle when displayed as a Venn diagram?
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