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HELOC vs cash out refinance vs second mortgage?

Posted on 4/30/22 at 11:02 pm
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
Geismar
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 4/30/22 at 11:02 pm
Need to free up some cash and have pretty good amount of home equity built up.
What’s the best way to get some cash out of equity?
Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16827 posts
Posted on 4/30/22 at 11:50 pm to
Depends on how much you need? With rates the way they are, I would lean toward HELOC without any other information.
Posted by mmonro3
New Orleans
Member since Apr 2013
4167 posts
Posted on 5/1/22 at 6:32 am to
This topic has been beat to death on this board. Most people will lean HELOC, but you really need to provide more information to see which one suites your situation better!
Posted by Hoyt
Alabama: The Beautiful
Member since Aug 2011
5588 posts
Posted on 5/1/22 at 7:09 am to
HELOC would scare me as the are usually ARMs tied to the Prime Interest Rate. 2nd Mortgages are typically priced higher than 1st Mortgages and also entail another payment, which will reduce cash flow each month. Depending on your situation regarding current term length, interest rate, and balance, I would consider a cash out refi. There are plenty of options out there for a 15 year fixed, 20/10/5 ARM, and 30/10/5 ARM.
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
Geismar
Member since Dec 2009
5242 posts
Posted on 5/1/22 at 6:54 pm to
What other info would be be needed?

Current mortgage is at 3% interest rate.

About $150k in home equity using last appraisal from almost 2 years ago when bought the house and about $215k in home equity using average of Zillow and Redfin. I realize appraisal one is supposed to be more reliable but other one may be more accurate.

Would like about $50k in liquid cash.

Posted by LSUSUPERSTAR
TX
Member since Jan 2005
16827 posts
Posted on 5/1/22 at 8:16 pm to
I wouldn't touch the current rate you have on it. My bank gave me a figure for a HELOC without an appraisal and an interest rate of ~4.5% fixed for 7 years. I wanted a little more so they did an appraisal which cost ~$500. The appraisal was higher than their initial estimate so they were able to loan me more money. No other costs involved.

We were buying a 1 acre lot on a lake here in TX and this was a way to finance 100% since the loan on the lot was only for 80%. They were both ~4.5%. It kept me from coming out of pocket immediately.

If you cash out refi, you will have a much higher rate on all of the loan and have to pay closing costs which can run a few thousand dollars.

I'm not familiar with second mortgage financing, but I assume it is similar to a first mortgage with a higher rate and also closing costs.
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
Geismar
Member since Dec 2009
5242 posts
Posted on 5/1/22 at 10:32 pm to
So HELOC may be my best option?

I tried my bank capital one and they said they don’t do heloc and had tried pnc (former mortgage was with them) and they don’t do them in Louisiana.

Anyone know where I can get a heloc in LA?
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
Geismar
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/1/22 at 10:36 pm to
Also what about a home equity loan vs a HELOC?
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
Geismar
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 5/2/22 at 8:08 am to
And what is a reverse mortgage? Same as HELOC?
Posted by TMFBB21
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2021
187 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 8:57 am to
I can do both, HELOC and cash out refinance. Many people get interest rate focused but many do not realize that if you are using the cash to pay off other debts, you can come out ahead. Credit card interest rate is HIGHER and will be getting higher with the FED rate change. I cannot give advice if HELOC or refinance is better. This market is very different than 6 months ago.

Reverse mortgage is geared towards those on a fixed income that take equity in their home to help them. You have to be over 65

email me at username @ gmail.com if you want me to give you more numbers for comparison
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
Geismar
Member since Dec 2009
5242 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 2:52 pm to
quote:

I can do both, HELOC and cash out refinance. Many people get interest rate focused but many do not realize that if you are using the cash to pay off other debts, you can come out ahead. Credit card interest rate is HIGHER and will be getting higher with the FED rate change. I cannot give advice if HELOC or refinance is better. This market is very different than 6 months ago. Reverse mortgage is geared towards those on a fixed income that take equity in their home to help them. You have to be over 65 email me at username @ gmail.com if you want me to give you more numbers for comparison


Not using cash to pay off other debts.
Posted by AUjim
America
Member since Dec 2012
3763 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 3:57 pm to
The folks here will give you good advice and direction if you actually share what you need 50K for. It does actually make a big difference.
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
Geismar
Member since Dec 2009
5242 posts
Posted on 5/2/22 at 6:37 pm to
quote:

The folks here will give you good advice and direction if you actually share what you need 50K for. It does actually make a big difference.


Kid’s college and cars
Posted by LSU2346
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2018
35 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 10:16 am to
BancorpSouth Bank, Pelican State Credit Union, Citizens Bank, IberiaBank (First Horizon)
Posted by TiegerTim
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2007
3079 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 11:52 am to
quote:

IberiaBank
I have used them for HELOCs on my last 3 homes.. would recommend.
Posted by LSUGUMBO
Shreveport, LA
Member since Sep 2005
9484 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

Kid’s colleg


The way they’re pushing loan forgiveness, I’d let them take out loans and help them pay later if necessary.
Posted by bubbz
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2006
23084 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 4:58 pm to
EFCU Financial offers up to 100% financing on HELOCs with no closing costs or appraisal fee.
Posted by Kay
Member since Mar 2011
1944 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 6:15 pm to
We did ours recently through Hancock Whitney and it was simple. We paid nothing for closing or appraisal.
This post was edited on 5/3/22 at 6:16 pm
Posted by Ric Flair
Charlotte
Member since Oct 2005
13867 posts
Posted on 5/3/22 at 7:41 pm to
quote:

And what is a reverse mortgage? Same as HELOC?


Not trying to be a dick, but if you don’t know that answer, you shouldn’t be doing this.

Have kids do student loans for college. Interest is deferred as long as they are enrolled, iirc. If they graduate, consider a heloc. Would not refinance just to take 50 grand out. If your cars are still running, hold off on anything new. Better yet, do the Dave Ramsey plan. Sounds like it’s tailor made for you. Good luck!
Posted by GeismarGeauxer
Geismar
Member since Dec 2009
5242 posts
Posted on 5/12/22 at 2:53 pm to
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