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re: Let's go Brandon!

Posted on 2/22/22 at 10:50 am to
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
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Posted on 2/22/22 at 10:50 am to

Maybe you can provide some advice for the OP here that makes perfect sense. Give it a go. Let's see who you blame it on.
Posted by tigerbaiter
Member since Dec 2006
406 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 10:51 am to
The company who makes the instrument we do this type of testing on has proprietary rights to the reagents and consumables needed. Again, other labs running the same tests on different instruments are having the same issues. Unprecedented in the 25 plus years I've been doing this.
Posted by tigerbaiter
Member since Dec 2006
406 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 10:53 am to
Would have been a good stopping point...
Posted by reveille
Houston
Member since Jul 2009
1198 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 10:53 am to
Soon it won't matter that you can't get reagents, because we are also running out of tubes to collect samples in. No samples no need for reagent.

This should be fun times to be a tech
Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
66187 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 10:54 am to
quote:

Unprecedented in the 25 plus years I've been doing this.



You think? Seems like a contingency plan since Q1 2020 would have been discussed.

2020.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Hanging with Chicken in Lurkistan
Member since Nov 2009
120000 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 10:54 am to
quote:

Would have been a good stopping point...

Posted by tigerbaiter
Member since Dec 2006
406 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 10:55 am to
Yep.
Posted by tigerbaiter
Member since Dec 2006
406 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 10:57 am to
Hard to come up with a plan for something that has never happened before. And there's really no solution when all possible alternatives are having the same issues. or worse.
Posted by danilo
Member since Nov 2008
20526 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 10:59 am to
quote:

Covid

People still care about this crap?
Posted by Midget Death Squad
Meme Magic
Member since Oct 2008
24920 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 11:01 am to
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65 posts in 16 years?




How I know you are a gay? By your criticism being too low of a post count on a message board rather than any substantive critique of the actual post.
Posted by HoustonGumbeauxGuy
Member since Jul 2011
29802 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 11:05 am to
Supply chain issues have been around for quite some time
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
37969 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 11:11 am to
this is not even remotely new


we've been having arm wrestling matches for racks of 10uL pipette tips since like 2 years ago

Posted by Sao
East Texas Piney Woods
Member since Jun 2009
66187 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 11:11 am to
quote:

Hard to come up with a plan for something that has never happened before. And there's really no solution when all possible alternatives are having the same issues. or worse.


Mmhmm. But hey, good luck with your sourcing, sincerely. Sorry Brandon did this to you.
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
37969 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 11:13 am to
quote:

Hard to come up with a plan for something that has never happened before. And there's really no solution when all possible alternatives are having the same issues. or worse.


have you been cryogenically frozen or did you recently emerge from an underground bunker or something?
Posted by Tarps99
Lafourche Parish
Member since Apr 2017
7761 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 11:14 am to
quote:

The company who makes the instrument we do this type of testing on has proprietary rights to the reagents and consumables needed. Again, other labs running the same tests on different instruments are having the same issues. Unprecedented in the 25 plus years I've been doing this.


How do they do this?

Do they store it in a cartridge like printer ink with a chip so they know if it has been tampered or refilled unauthorized?

I am pretty sure anyone willing could produce alternatives, but if the solutions are locked down with chips then you are fricked.
Posted by Slagathor
Makin' jokes about your teeny tiny
Member since Jul 2007
37969 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 11:21 am to
quote:

Do they store it in a cartridge like printer ink with a chip so they know if it has been tampered or refilled unauthorized?


no idea what assays/platforms OP is using, but it's likely way more than just cracking something open to see how it works... reagents could be biological and be very difficult to characterize much less reproduce
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 11:24 am to
Jason Sutherland, the national sales and marketing manager of the life science supplier Celtic Molecular Diagnostics in Mowbray, South Africa, writes to The Scientist in an email. “Every plastic consumable that is required to run RT-PCR tests such as plates and pipette tips are being used in abundance and many of the suppliers are battling to keep up with the demand.”

Lab gloves can be particularly hard to come by, adds Sutherland. For more than a year, his company has been unable to procure any from its regular supplier in Germany as the country has stopped exporting them to prioritize domestic needs.


Even when products are available on the global market, the pandemic is stalling their delivery. A general drop in air traffic as well as a global shortage of shipping containers have meant both delays and inflated delivery prices. Staff shortages at ports and a congestion of container ships may have exacerbated the issue in New Zealand

Basant Giri of the Kathmandu Institute of Applied Sciences who specializes in developing low-cost analytical technology, says he worries that this could have long-term effects on lab supplies. During a four-month lockdown that ended in July 2020, air traffic stalled. He’s had to wait months for specific reagents for enzyme assays or standard reference materials for drug and antibiotic testing

Tuberculosis researcher André Loxton of Stellenbosch University and the South Africa Medical Research Council’s Centre for Tuberculosis Research was able to source some items from colleagues. But he’s been waiting weeks for other products

“It would be nice if some of the big biotech and pharma supply companies would start having more backups in terms of warehouses or stockpiles better distributed around the world,” adds Hwa, “so we’re not waiting for every single thing to come all the way from Europe or all the way from China.”

Labs Worldwide Still Struggling Amid Broken Supply Chains - May 21, 2021



Posted by tigerbaiter
Member since Dec 2006
406 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 11:29 am to
This..
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
40237 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 11:33 am to
quote:

How I know you are a gay? By your criticism being too low of a post count

Is that really a well known tendency of gay people? That's very helpful!
Posted by bgtiger
Prairieville
Member since Dec 2004
11451 posts
Posted on 2/22/22 at 11:36 am to
I don't care about the reagents so much, but more concerned with why a company would go out of it's way to ramp up production of Covid tests. What do they know? Will Covid tests even be effective for a next strain? They are certain, it seems, that another wave is coming.
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