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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 5/24/24 at 12:01 pm to
Posted by Hateradedrink
Member since May 2023
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 12:01 pm to
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I don't see Ukraine agreeing to neuter itself militarily. Ukraine probably gets in the EU or at least gets some special status with it, and this allows Ukraine to build their base defenses back up and the west as a whole to expand its manufacturing capabilities and further aid Ukraine against any future threat.

Putin is probably gone by the time they would be capable enough to try again.


This is exactly what that guy a couple weeks ago was saying that you accused of being short sighted.


This post was edited on 5/24/24 at 12:02 pm
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 12:07 pm to
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This is exactly what that guy a couple weeks ago was saying that you accused of being short sighted.


Thank you
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
2566 posts
Posted on 5/24/24 at 12:08 pm to
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This is exactly what that guy a couple weeks ago was saying that you accused of being short sighted.



Link?

I said a couple of weeks ago that there would be a peace deal, and called someone short sighted for saying Russia wouldn't also build itself back up and likely end up being a better military than they are now in the future because they wouldn't be pulling 60yo equipment out of storage to retrofit.
This post was edited on 5/24/24 at 12:14 pm
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
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Posted on 5/24/24 at 12:13 pm to
The actual quotes in question which were re: post-war Russia, not Ukraine

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How are they strengthening their military? Russia has lost over 3000 tanks in this war. Those were T90s, T80s, and modernized T72s which were its most advanced tanks. Those tanks are being replaced by unmodernized T72s, T62s, and T55s pulled from storage. Same thing applies to its helicopters, planes, APCs, and the quality of the training of its troops. Russia’s military economy might be expanding but they are replacing licensed western technology like the fire control system on their tanks with cold war era technology.


You're looking at this short term. Their military likely won't be strengthened during this war, but in the years after its entirely possible if not the most likely outcome that the equipment they are pulling out of storage will be replaced with newly manufactured equipment. Its unlikely that a nation as large and with as many people and natural resources as Russia just withers away into a shell of itself and not rebuild its military, regardless of the result of the Ukraine War.
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