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Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:06 pm to
Posted by No Colors
Sandbar
Member since Sep 2010
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Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:06 pm to
quote:

Medvedev spoke last week about how both banks of the Dnieper were Russia


But they're not Russia. They're Ukraine.

What if every country decided to take something from their neighbor because they had a larger army?

You either respect and adhere to international law, or you don't.
Posted by VolSquatch
First Coast
Member since Sep 2023
2535 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:11 pm to
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What if every country decided to take something from their neighbor because they had a larger army?



If my aunt had balls she would be my uncle.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
2687 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:16 pm to
The GOP’s Pro-Russia Caucus Lost. Now Ukraine Has to Win.
Once U.S. money starts flowing again, the dynamics of the war will change.


By Anne Applebaum

From the first days of the 2022 Russian invasion, President Vladimir Putin has been trying to conquer Ukraine through psychological games as well as military force. He needed to persuade Americans, Europeans, and above all Ukrainians that victory was impossible, that the only alternative was surrender, and that the Ukrainian state would disappear in due course.

Plenty of Americans and Europeans, though not so many Ukrainians, supported this view. Pro-Russia influencers—Tucker Carlson, J. D. Vance, David Sacks—backed up by an army of pro-Russia trolls on X and other social-media platforms, helped feed the narrative of failure and convinced a minority in Congress to block aid for Ukraine.

But with the passage of this aid bill, Russia’s demoralization campaign has suffered a severe setback. This is also a setback for the Russian war effort, and not only because the Ukrainians will now have more ammunition. Suddenly the Russian military and Russian society are once again faced with the prospect of a very long war. Ukraine, backed by the combined military and economic forces of the United States and the European Union, is a much different opponent than Ukraine isolated and alone.

Once the aid package becomes law this week, the psychological advantage will once again be on our side. Let’s use it. As Johnson himself recommended, the Biden administration should immediately pressure European allies to release the $300 billion in Russian assets that they jointly hold and send it to Ukraine. There are excellent legal and moral arguments for doing so—the money can legitimately be considered a form of reparations. This shift would also make clear to the Kremlin that it has no path back to what used to be called “normal” relations, and that the price Russia is paying for its colonial war will only continue to grow.

The Atlantic
Posted by Lima Whiskey
Member since Apr 2013
19550 posts
Posted on 4/22/24 at 1:37 pm to
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You either respect and adhere to international law, or you don't.


Borders are an expression of geography, culture (identity), and ultimately power.

Russia is in a position to decide where Russia ends and where Ukraine begins here. The biggest factor is their overwhelming military advantage, but geography and culture also weight in their favor too. There’s no mountain chain here to delineate the border. And the Russian identity continues to resonate with people, especially in places like Kharkov and Odessa.

We can talk about rules, but we haven’t cared about those in a long time, and we’re also not in a position to enforce them, so it just makes us look weak when we talk about them. We also can’t inflict sufficient pain on Russia to make the war fruitless for them.
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