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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 12/7/23 at 4:09 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 12/7/23 at 4:09 am to
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Per my sauce(s) in Ukraine they were saying a spring offensive to distract Russia but were really planning a late summer offensive. They were hoping to lure the Russians into false sense of security after a spring or early summer offensive didn’t happen. Unfortunately the Biden administration forced Ukraine to launch the counteroffensive when a small weak spot was found.
That is info I hadn't yet heard. Interesting and sad if true. Has any of this been released publically in a news source?

On a related basis, given this insensible, manipulative behavior from the US, I am surprised you won't take a second look at the origins of this whole debacle. I know you've exonerated everyone but Putin himself. But now that you're that you're noting this on Team Biden's part, I'll bet you'll find the UK is in step as well. Do yourself a favor. Go back and give the runup to war a clean second look.

The same Biden team now ordering the death of Ukrainian soldiers in a premature, and therefore predictably futile attack, is the team which was in charge in the prelude to this war as well. You're a bright guy. You can't really suppose Biden & Co just suddenly grew callous over lost Ukrainian lives and the precept of a drawn out proxy war against Russia.

I know you're invested in a position here, and that isn't likely to change. But knowing what you know now, just privately give it a second look at some point. In terms of "those who don't learn from history..." it is an opportunity.
Posted by cypher
Member since Sep 2014
2703 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 5:18 am to
British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE
07 December 2023

On 1 December 2023, a new intake of Russian officers started their studies at the Russian General Staff Academy. The Russian MOD announced that over 60% of the intake has combat experience. Although it was not specified, the majority have likely gained this experience in Ukraine since 2022.

Students at the academy typically rank between Major and General-Major (equivalent to a one-star General in the NATO system) and are earmarked as having the potential for senior command.

While a high proportion of some specialists, such as pilots, deployed on operations in Syria, the Ukraine war means combat experience is now more widespread across this mid-level cadre of Russian officers. Over the coming years, this generation is likely to exert major influence over the future direction of Russia's military and whether it implements lessons learned from the war in Ukraine.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36610 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 8:20 am to
The war didn’t begin when Biden took office.
It started when Putin couldn’t accept the removal of his puppet as president. He saw he was losing influence in Ukraine , and he made the decision to invade Ukraine then.

Learn from history , all of history.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40257 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 9:04 pm to
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Per my sauce(s) in Ukraine they were saying a spring offensive to distract Russia but were really planning a late summer offensive. They were hoping to lure the Russians into false sense of security after a spring or early summer offensive didn’t happen. Unfortunately the Biden administration forced Ukraine to launch the counteroffensive when a small weak spot was found.That is info I hadn't yet heard. Interesting and sad if true. Has any of this been released publically in a news source?


Nope it came from my buddy’s brother who works for Ukrainian intelligence. They want it leaked to the internet so the news makes its way to right ears indirectly. That way the western leaders back off and let Ukraine decide what tactics to use with its war. However, they cannot afford to risk losing military support by openly telling the media. Of course my sauce is in Ukrainian intelligence so it could be smoke to cover their arse but he has generally been right about stuff like that.
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
40257 posts
Posted on 12/7/23 at 11:15 pm to
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On a related basis, given this insensible, manipulative behavior from the US, I am surprised you won't take a second look at the origins of this whole debacle.


I know many people in Ukraine and all say that the Maiden was a homegrown thing. Most Ukrainians were neutral or silent on the issue until Yanukovich turned the secret police from Crimea and Russia on the protesters.
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