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So annualize that to 8,000 people.

In a country of 41 million, that's a murder rate of about 19.5 per 100,000.

In 2021, Washington DC had a murder rate of 30 per 100,000. Louisiana came in third behind Mississippi, at 21 per 100,000.

New Orleans has a murder rate of about 40 per 100,000.

(Someone please check my math.)

What relation do murder rates in the U.S. have to civilian deaths from a war in Ukraine?

You seem to be saying the number of apples in specific U.S. cities is worse than number of oranges in the Ukraine even though they have no correlation beyond statistical sizes which trivialises all those deaths regardless of location or method.

If you want to look at it as pure statistics that are related using the per 100,000 methodology, then how about considering the below question?

Is Russia's claim for going into Ukraine to stop the slaughter of civilians in the Donbass justified by a death rate of 0.44 per 100,000 (65 deaths annualised at 26.6 against an approximate population of 6,100,00 in the Donbass), or a casualty rate of 2.2 per 100,000 (364 casualties annualised at 134.5 against the above population number), especially as these numbers represent both sides rates combined?

Note: I have corrected my initial post as I had confused casualties with deaths for some of my numbers, they (should) now be correct.

Edit: Clarity

This post was edited on 7/27/23 at 4:19 am

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Posted by cypher

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Posted on 7/27/23 at 5:00 am to OutsideObserver

British Defence Intelligence
INTELLIGENCE UPDATE
UPDATE ON UKRAINE 27 July 2023

As Ukrainian forces continue major offensive operations in Zaporizhzhia Oblast, one of the single most influential Russian weapon systems in the sector is the Ka-52 HOKUM attack helicopter. Russia has highly likely lost around forty Ka-52s since the invasion, but the type has also imposed a heavy cost on Ukraine.

In recent months, Russia has highly likely augmented the force in the south with at least a small number of brand new, Ka-52M variants: a heavily modified aircraft, informed by lessons from Russia's experience in Syria. Evidence supporting the M variant's use in Ukraine includes photos posted on social media of aircrew posing next to the new aircraft and thanking well-wishers for sending them morale items.

Another key improvement to the Ka-52 fleet is the integration of a new anti-tank missile, the LMUR, which has a range of approximately 15km. Ka-52 crews have been quick to exploit opportunities to launch these weapons beyond the range of Ukrainian air defences.

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