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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict
Posted on 12/22/22 at 9:48 am to Darth_Vader
Posted on 12/22/22 at 9:48 am to Darth_Vader
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I would take reports of Russians using tanks in an indirect fire role with a huge grain of salt.
It's not completely made up. Some Russian Telegram account showed one of their tanks doing this. The question is how widespread it is, and whether it represented a unique situation in a particular area of the frontline, or whether it was more representative of a general shortage of artillery shells.
This post was edited on 12/22/22 at 9:49 am
Posted on 12/22/22 at 10:07 am to GOP_Tiger
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It's not completely made up. Some Russian Telegram account showed one of their tanks doing this. The question is how widespread it is, and whether it represented a unique situation in a particular area of the frontline, or whether it was more representative of a general shortage of artillery shells.
Well, again, as I said above, for a tank to lay down effective indirect fire it takes two things:
1. Specialized sighing and fire control systems for indirect fire
2. A tank crew trained to know how to lay down indirect fire.
Russia might have equipped some tanks for this. It has been Red Army doctrine going back to before WWII for there to be a limited indirect fire role for some tanks. But your average T-72 isn’t set up for it. And on their newer tanks like the T-80 and T-90, I do think the indirect fire role has been completely abandoned.
But that still leaves the matter of crew training. From my observations, it’s patently obvious the average Russian tank crew had only rudimentary training. I’d compare the average Russian tank crew to being on the level of an American tank crew in their second week of Armor School.
So, if the Russians are attempting indirect fire with their tanks, all they’re doing is wasting tank rounds.
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