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re: Latest Updates: Russia-Ukraine Conflict

Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:24 pm to
Posted by WeeWee
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:24 pm to
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They were going to be members.


Ukraine applied for NATO membership in 2021 and was unanimously rejected by NATO.
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
34398 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:42 pm to
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They were going to be members.


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Ukraine applied for NATO membership in 2021 and was unanimously rejected by NATO.


So prior to Russia’s full scale invasion in 2022 huh? No shite. They also tried to join in 2008.

Obama, and McCain were ALL in favor of it. W pulled a Forrest Gump (that’s a fine idea), and have them the support of the US. Europe hated W so that had shite for traction.

So ultimately, why weren’t they admitted?

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Russian President Vladimir Putin warned that NATO membership would force Russia to treat Ukraine as an enemy.


Even back then there was trepidation:

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Russia's opposition caused consternation among some NATO members. "We are opposed to the entry of Georgia and Ukraine because we think that it is not a good answer to the balance of power within Europe and between Europe and Russia," French Prime Minister François Fillon reportedly said in a radio interview.


A such, Europe dragging their feet isn’t a shock. Nonetheless, I have no doubt that they were going to get in with Biden supporting their entry. Going against FJB’s wishes would have shown a divide amongst the ruling class. It wasn’t going to happen. Like as not, the world will do whatever it takes to support the ice cream eater, just because it isn’t OMB.

As noted above...it was going to happen.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
15218 posts
Posted on 9/11/22 at 9:51 pm to
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Ukraine applied for NATO membership in 2021 and was unanimously rejected by NATO.


Yeah cause NATO didn't want to have to do the Article 5 thing. But instead we are supplying them with an abundance of equipment and intelligence to fight this thing. Not NATO stuff but pretty good.
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