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re: Kelly building this team with ‘Boot” guys
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:26 pm to ffishstik
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:26 pm to ffishstik
These kind of threads are mostly about feels and little about facts.
National championships in general are not won with 3-star players. The correlation between the amount of blue-chip players on a team and the likelihood for winning national championships has been repeatedly established. More stars generally means more trophies.
Pipelines are mostly a myth. You cannot take all of the Louisiana 3-star players. So what does the HS coach think when LSU fails to offer his current 3 star? Moreover, you'll be hard pressed to find a player whose primary consideration for choosing a team is whether they have a HS teammate on the team.
quote:2019 was not won with 3 stars.
"Putting up a fence" around Louisiana isn't about chasing the 4-5 star recruits that everyone wants. You take the solid 3 star guys and it builds a pipeline to those schools.
National championships in general are not won with 3-star players. The correlation between the amount of blue-chip players on a team and the likelihood for winning national championships has been repeatedly established. More stars generally means more trophies.
Pipelines are mostly a myth. You cannot take all of the Louisiana 3-star players. So what does the HS coach think when LSU fails to offer his current 3 star? Moreover, you'll be hard pressed to find a player whose primary consideration for choosing a team is whether they have a HS teammate on the team.
quote:Five LSU WRs are in the transfer portal. Three are from Louisiana.
the obvious that has already been stated, those players are less likely to transfer once they are here and will play with more pride for the home team.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:34 pm to Salviati
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These kind of threads are mostly about feels and little about facts.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 12:51 pm to Salviati
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2019 was not won with 3 stars.
Missing the point entirely. Building the relationships helps give you an edge to KEEP those 4-5 stars here. You say that 2019 was not won with local 3 star players. Justin Jefferson and Clyde Edwards Helaire say hello. And, my son played at Catholic and I can tell you that it matters seeing your former teammates and alum playing for the Tigers. Clyde's success at LSU did not hurt with recruiting players like Emery Jones this year.
But, yes, getting the star recruits also matters. On those 4-5 star kids, how many players from Louisiana have contributed to Saban's success at Alabama? The answer is "a lot". Do what it takes to keep those kids here and you strengthen your team and weaken your biggest rival, who also has to be concerned with what is going on in Georgia and Texas because Alabama HAS to recruit those states (and Florida).
This post was edited on 1/14/22 at 12:58 pm
Posted on 1/14/22 at 2:23 pm to Salviati
quote:Whoa...easy there Francesco.
Kelly building this team with ‘Boot” guys
These kind of threads are mostly about feels and little about facts.
Fact: SEC College Football fans tend to laugh at the advice of a Virginia football fan regarding player evaluations and National Championships. You know dick.
Fact: The eastern liberal/progressive mantra of "I'm smarter than you so do as I say even though it won't work" don't wash outside of the East/West Coasts and Chicago. It certainly doesn't apply to a state/regional College Football recruiting base. Again - you know dick.
Fact: As has been painfully demonstrated in our Society by your brethren over the last decade, feels is the overriding factor in everyday life and facts be damned. Hell, if you progs can't spin the actual facts to your advantage it's become standard practice to make up new ones!
Feel: Look, this is about football---nobody around here cares one whit what you think. When somebody up there starts winning National Championships, you give us a shout back. If you feel like it.
Posted on 1/14/22 at 3:21 pm to Salviati
The goal should be to identify the 4-3*s that really are or have the potential to be 5-4*s. Heck plenty of 5*s year after year prove they didn't deserve that rank through performance on or off the field.
In the transfer portal era you aren't filling and keeping a team full of 5*s since those are less likely to be patient and wait their turn for playing time. 4-3*s are your depth which you want quality from.
By building relationships with schools and coaches by "putting the fence up", you're more likely to correctly identify those underrated players and get guys that make the whole team more successful year after year. It also helps in convincing the occasional 5* to come and keep playing with their teammates/friends.
In the transfer portal era you aren't filling and keeping a team full of 5*s since those are less likely to be patient and wait their turn for playing time. 4-3*s are your depth which you want quality from.
By building relationships with schools and coaches by "putting the fence up", you're more likely to correctly identify those underrated players and get guys that make the whole team more successful year after year. It also helps in convincing the occasional 5* to come and keep playing with their teammates/friends.
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