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re: So I just finished my first watch through of Sopranos.. and I don’t know what to think

Posted on 1/8/22 at 11:08 pm to
Posted by PowerTool
The dark side of the road
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 11:08 pm to
The ambiguity of the ending was perfect. It was a view from Tony's perspective of the paranoia he had to live with at all times and would for the rest of his life - however long it may have been ;) - after the war with NY.

The only part I never really got was the Meadow parking shite. The time it took her to park only matters if the whole family at the table got whacked, which would have been highly unusual.
This post was edited on 1/8/22 at 11:08 pm
Posted by VermilionTiger
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 1/8/22 at 11:25 pm to
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The only part I never really got was the Meadow parking shite. The time it took her to park only matters if the whole family at the table got whacked, which would have been highly unusual.


I was expecting her to do a shite parking job and block in the person that would eventually shoot Tony
Posted by DomesticatedBoar
Pensacola, FL
Member since Jul 2019
607 posts
Posted on 1/8/22 at 11:49 pm to
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The ambiguity of the ending was perfect.

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Check out The Americans if you haven’t at this point. Extremely well written. Satisfying finale (maybe one of the best ones I’ve seen).

The Americans is a top 5 show for me. I was a child of the 80s, so I’m biased, but it uses music better than just about any show ever.
Posted by AMS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 1/9/22 at 1:40 am to
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The only part I never really got was the Meadow parking shite. The time it took her to park only matters if the whole family at the table got whacked, which would have been highly unusual


What? not at all..

The point was she wouldve been sitting between Tony and the shooter obscuring his shot. His family was never going to get whacked.

Would meadow being in the way have stopped the hit altogether? almost certainly not, but tony would've seen it coming and no jump to black screen.
Posted by Displaced
Member since Dec 2011
32738 posts
Posted on 1/9/22 at 12:35 pm to
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The only part I never really got was the Meadow parking shite

It's supposed to be symbolism for the attempts at Tony's life. She fails to park the first two times to the same way the first two attempts to whack tony failed.

She was successful on the third attempt...

This was also the only episode with no music in the credits. We were seeing everything from Tony's perspective. He gone.

Also, the ambiguity is gone considering David chase outwardly has stated that Tony died in the finale.

There are several good YouTube breakdown highlighting all the symbols in that last scene.
This post was edited on 1/9/22 at 12:37 pm
Posted by Grievous Angel
Tuscaloosa, AL
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 1/12/22 at 9:42 am to
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The ambiguity of the ending was perfect.


Yeah. But I believe David Chase has been interviewed and has strongly suggested that was his end. And that's probably appropriate, and I'm glad I didn't see it.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
89808 posts
Posted on 1/12/22 at 9:36 pm to
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The only part I never really got was the Meadow parking shite. The time it took her to park only matters if the whole family at the table got whacked, which would have been highly unusual.


It built a lot of tension, for sure. Even the bell is a literary device in this instance.

The bell is the biggest clue as to what happened. Bell rings, Tony looks up. It happens over and over during the scene. On the last time, bell rang, fade to black.

The dual interpretation is that the audience sees Tony get hit from Tony's perspective, "You never see it coming", as well as Chase metaphorically "whacking" the audience - as we will not see what happens next.

My gut take the first time is was it was ambiguous and that Tony has to look over his shoulder and be paranoid for the rest of his time as boss (until jail or cemetery). A detailed analysis of the scene is pretty solid for Member's Only guy going to the bathroom and then returning with a hidden gun (like Michael Corleone) to whack Tony in front of his family.

One of the later episodes of Season 5 "The Test Dream" has Tony in a dream where he tries to retrieve a gun from behind a toilet tank very similar to the one from which Michael Corleone retrieved the gun to kill Sollozzo Capt. McClusky. Further echoing that hit from The Godfather - in that same dream:



The first episode of the final season was named "Members Only."

Finally the repeated instances of, "You never hear it coming" was one of the most obvious bits of foreshadowing that go back to very early episodes.
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