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TRT Dosing
Posted on 1/5/22 at 9:06 am
Posted on 1/5/22 at 9:06 am
I'm 43 with total test in the low 400s. I understand that obviously everyone is different but I'm just curious of dosing from some of you that have been on it. Going through my urology clinic, they don't sound like they are going to go higher than 100 mg (sub q) per month. Wondering what some of y'all's levels were/are and what kind of dose it took to achieve it.
Posted on 1/5/22 at 9:08 am to rhanse1lsu
Per month? You sure? That’s nothing. I’d go to somebody else.
ETA: I, too, am 43. I think my total t levels were in the low-mid 3s, but I was prescribed 100/week and insurance pays for it.
ETA: I, too, am 43. I think my total t levels were in the low-mid 3s, but I was prescribed 100/week and insurance pays for it.
This post was edited on 1/5/22 at 9:10 am
Posted on 1/5/22 at 9:17 am to rhanse1lsu
quote:
I'm 43 with total test in the low 400s. I understand that obviously everyone is different but I'm just curious of dosing from some of you that have been on it. Going through my urology clinic, they don't sound like they are going to go higher than 100 mg (sub q) per month. Wondering what some of y'all's levels were/are and what kind of dose it took to achieve it.
your doctor is a fricking idiot if he is saying once a month injection. Does he not understand half life?
he is an even bigger idiot for putting you on test for levels in the 400s. Especially if he did not address lifestyle and diet first and retest multiple times. Why did he tell you that you need it? and what are your free test levels like.
you should run and find a new doctor...like now.
but to answer your question
optimal is 2x dosing a week. you just split the dose.
your dose should start at 100mg per week subq and access from there. at 43 you will want to be somewhere in the 700-900 range. you do not want to be at the top of the range now anything below that is kind of a waste if you were feeling bad with levels in the 400s.
overall dose stays the same, you are just splitting the dose due to half life.
and yes i prefer to use insulin needles and do subq. over course i have been on for 6 years now and had to do everyday HCG shots for a year prior to that for the fertility treatment i did. Currently i am injecting into quads just because i was getting bruising in the stomach from doing subq for so long without a break.
LINK
LINK
that is two good articles discussing the benifits of subq over IM. plus its painless if done with a 27 or 29g needle
some of you guys would be much better off getting the shite off the black market the way many of you are being treated. for fricks sake.
Posted on 1/5/22 at 9:24 am to rhanse1lsu
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low 400s
I'm pretty surprised that he okayed TRT if you are at that level. My levels were closer to 100 and I am on 100 mg per week. And I am willing to bet that is what your doctor said and you misunderstood as 100 mg per month. If you are in the 400s a dose of say 200 mg a week is supra-pharmacological.
This post was edited on 1/5/22 at 9:32 am
Posted on 1/5/22 at 9:30 am to rhanse1lsu
Your test is higher than most for your age. Kinda surprised you got prescribed much of anything. You don’t need it, but I’m sure someone will prescribe you more if you look hard enough
This post was edited on 1/5/22 at 9:33 am
Posted on 1/5/22 at 10:44 am to rhanse1lsu
I’ve been kicking around TRT for a while. My levels were mid to low 400s. I am reluctant because when I am doing what I need to do, working out, eating cleanly, etc. I feel pretty good. I haven’t been doing that for about 2 months now and just starting to get myself back into the routine. Even when I was though, I saw these guys on T and they were like 20 yr olds with all the energy they had. I go back and forth on whether I should try to get levels up to around 700-800 or if it would really make that much difference. I’m 40 btw
This post was edited on 1/5/22 at 10:45 am
Posted on 1/5/22 at 2:26 pm to rhanse1lsu
Unless you got awesome insurance, you will be out of pocket with levels in the 400s. I guess you could qualify if your Free T is below a certain level. Did they test for that?
100 mg/month shot would be the most worthless thing you could do, sounds like a money grab honestly.
If they were offering a pellet, that would have made more sense. Although the dosage seems off and pellets are 90 day deals I think.
Diet, workout and sex will get you above 500 easily. Which is in range and normal
If you want to go all in on TRT, like mentioned above, weekly shots and shoot for 900s
100 mg/month shot would be the most worthless thing you could do, sounds like a money grab honestly.
If they were offering a pellet, that would have made more sense. Although the dosage seems off and pellets are 90 day deals I think.
Diet, workout and sex will get you above 500 easily. Which is in range and normal
If you want to go all in on TRT, like mentioned above, weekly shots and shoot for 900s
Posted on 1/6/22 at 3:22 pm to rhanse1lsu
I'm 28 and have total test in the low 200s and free test in the 5s when not supplementing with extraneous testosterone.
My doc started me out at 50mg/week and I am currently up to 120mg/week. Recent labs put me at 537 total test and 20 free test. 120mg/wk puts most people at 800-900 total test, so I just so happen to be a very low responder. Despite my higher numbers, I haven't seen any reduction in symptoms. Doc said for me to stay at 120/wk for a few months and see if I improve, but I'm probably gonna bump it to 160 and see how it goes.
I do subq injections twice a week and they couldn't be easier. Took some tweaking to find a carrier oil that worked for me. The cyp I got for first round was suspended in cottonseed oil and that shite was horrible. Very itchy and irritating. I'm on Enanthate that's suspended in sesame oil now and it's super friendly to my body.
My doc started me out at 50mg/week and I am currently up to 120mg/week. Recent labs put me at 537 total test and 20 free test. 120mg/wk puts most people at 800-900 total test, so I just so happen to be a very low responder. Despite my higher numbers, I haven't seen any reduction in symptoms. Doc said for me to stay at 120/wk for a few months and see if I improve, but I'm probably gonna bump it to 160 and see how it goes.
I do subq injections twice a week and they couldn't be easier. Took some tweaking to find a carrier oil that worked for me. The cyp I got for first round was suspended in cottonseed oil and that shite was horrible. Very itchy and irritating. I'm on Enanthate that's suspended in sesame oil now and it's super friendly to my body.
Posted on 1/7/22 at 3:15 pm to rhanse1lsu
i had 2 tests, 150 and 210.
i was on 80 mg twice week for few months. levels went to mid 700. im at 100 mg twice week now. been that way for few weeks and will retest in few more.
i was on 80 mg twice week for few months. levels went to mid 700. im at 100 mg twice week now. been that way for few weeks and will retest in few more.
Posted on 1/9/22 at 1:32 pm to rhanse1lsu
There are no known testosterone esters that maintain serum levels for an entire two weeks, much less an entire month. Your levels will be lower than you started at the end of two weeks (and in one month) because the synthetic testosterone will be gone and will also suppress your natural HPT axis from producing its own. I see this all the time
Once weekly at the least, but better at twice weekly.
Once weekly at the least, but better at twice weekly.
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