Yea you're right, that's a better comparison.

Lonzo is a good 3pt shooter, and he has been consistent this year. But you're You're counting a large % of Temples games as a negative when there's no reason at all they should be considered having a big impact on the game, much less costing us games. Shooting %0 in five games when you only take one 3 pointer is a crap argument. How many %0 games do you think Lonzo would have if there were nights where he only took 1?

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Point still stands, unless you're telling me Temple is worth a lotto protected 1st, we lost him for next to nothing.

Thats not my argument. It wasnt a good trade and I used to say we should have resigned him because he would still have trade value at this coming up free agency because it wasnt a bad contract. My argument is that Temple is not nearly as bad as you're trying to make it seem.

Over the past 11 seasons he's averaged 26 mpg. Everywhere he's been since then, outside of one year with the Clippers, and with us, he's averaged over 25 mpg. And he's been healthy. There were guys a few weeks ago on here saying that if he were on any other team in the NBA, he wouldn't get a single minute. Thats just not even remotely true. Literally every team in the league would take him and he would get minutes. He's a quality vet.

Satoransky is the guy you should be dogging. He's useless.

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Posted by TigerinATL

Member since Feb 2005

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Posted on 1/3/22 at 11:52 am to iwyLSUiwy

This thread is mostly fruitless back and forth of extreme points of view.

It can be true that both the roster isn’t in shambles and Griff has made enough mistakes to be replaced.

The state of the franchise/front office may be in question. The state of Zion’s health may be in question. But I think they have the right coach in place and the roster is fine. Mistakes have absolutely been made but:

- Ingram is better than most of us expected
- Hart was a throw in that has improved enough that he replaces the value you lost by not trading Lonzo sooner for better value.
- The “worthless” late picks that have been spent so far have been turned into a 20/10 starter making $15 per year.
- Herb is a long term starter that helps make up for blowing #4

Far from perfect, and I don’t believe Griff should get a pass because he was fortunate enough to have the low probability pieces pay off after he blew the high probability pieces. But some of you only focus on the misses and act like the cupboard is bare when there is still a lot to like about this roster and the assets they have going forward.

Likewise the sunshine pumpers acting like everything is good because the Pels are close to the play in…the West is a mess this year, and the Play In is still the 10th seed. Those are pretty low bars to be measuring with.

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Posted by Townedrunkard

Member since Jan 2019

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Posted on 1/3/22 at 12:22 pm to iwyLSUiwy

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Thats not my argument. It wasnt a good trade and I used to say we should have resigned him because he would still have trade value at this coming up free agency because it wasnt a bad contract

This was my biggest problem with the Ball trade. If the Bulls didn’t want give up higher compensation then why not sit back and let them scramble to get rid of contracts to offer Ball, then wait three days while we decide to match. Don’t think it’s possible they get Derozen either under that scenario.

And who knows, Ball could have got stuck like Lauri M and Hart did begging for an offer when everything dried up or sign a team friendly deal. We may have been able to get Ball back cheaper than what the Bulls paid. We held all the leverage and Griff just caved…..

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