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Carbon Credits

Posted on 12/30/21 at 2:54 pm
Posted by ChiGator
Member since Nov 2020
3914 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 2:54 pm
I’ve been doing a ton of research on this trend lately & I feel like it could be massive. ESG is not going away and this is a way companies can control it. Also a good cause.

Curious if anyone else has looked into this as I’m pretty new. I have a small stake in Carbon Streaming Corp but want to add.


There are some good podcast out there on this as well as a good website to start.

Podcast
LINK

CarbonCredits.com

LINK
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 2:57 pm
Posted by Diseasefreeforall
Member since Oct 2012
7162 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 3:26 pm to
I'll be looking seriously at a company called Base Carbon that should IPO in the next month or so. Especially if there are warrants available to buy since those can provide some leverage and don't tend to be inflated after IPO.

Base Carbon

And it will probably only trade on Canadian exchanges so if your broker doesn't offer that Interactive Brokers does. It's the best for buying international stocks.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 3:29 pm
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2255 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:39 pm to
Also very interested from a couple of fronts. I think what NCX is doing could be wildly popular. I tried to use them for some income as a forest landowner to sell some carbon credits and got a bad taste in my mouth.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 6:40 pm
Posted by C
Houston
Member since Dec 2007
28158 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 6:49 pm to
I know someone who has acres up for carbon credits. Total scam. They’re just replanting trees after clear cutting. They’ll cut those down too in about 20-30 years when fully mature. In the meantime they’re getting a few grand for “carbon offsets.”

I don’t hate them for it but just another example of the scams around esg.
Posted by TigerTatorTots
The Safeshore
Member since Jul 2009
82042 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:11 pm to
nearly everything around ESG is a scam
Posted by CountMeIn
Member since Apr 2016
29 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:40 pm to
Was your bad experience anything beyond NCX not accepting your bid for available credits? My bid for this most recent cycle was higher than what they ultimately accepted ($8/credit). I don’t plan to cut for awhile, so really anything is a bonus. That said, I’d expect as more people enter in with same mindset as I, the price for credits will be driven down to a value that’s inconsequential to participate.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2255 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:50 pm to
No. I knew the bids would be about $8/credit. The $/credit is meaningless. The assessment of harvest deferral credit is what matters. I did not enter the auction after receiving their harvest deferral credit (HDC) assessment.

I have merchantable timber. From their credit assessment and at $8/credit, I’m below 1% rate. I’d be better off cutting the timber now and investing the proceeds. Admittedly, I won’t, but this highlights that their algorithm for HDC assessment is badly flawed, at least for my acreage.

They can keep their pittance and I’ll keep telling my Honda Fit driving coworkers that my redneck’s carbon footprint is lower than theirs.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 8:02 pm
Posted by KillTheGophers
Member since Jan 2016
6743 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 7:54 pm to
quote:

nearly everything around ESG is a scam


Agree

Started researching - it is a scam. When financial performance is impacted and investors ask about metrics, performance, budgets, etc, ESG will be swept to the side real quick.
Posted by Ramblin Wreck
Member since Aug 2011
3908 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 8:03 pm to
quote:

Also a good cause


It's a way for government to control companies and their production rates without nationalizing them. It also creates a whole new market for politicians and their insider friends to profit off of government regulations. I guess they were milking wetlands credits and emission purchases as much as they could and needed something new.
Posted by ChiGator
Member since Nov 2020
3914 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 9:15 pm to
You should check out some of the projects Carbon Streaming Corp is involved in. Blue Carbon specially could be very lucrative.
This post was edited on 12/30/21 at 9:23 pm
Posted by ChiGator
Member since Nov 2020
3914 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 9:21 pm to
I would argue that ESG hasn’t really caught on yet full scale in the US. In Europe and many parts of Asia, ESG regulations are already established. Whether you agree with the politics or not, it’s coming and fast to the US and companies will be forced to play ball.
Posted by turkish
Member since Aug 2016
2255 posts
Posted on 12/30/21 at 9:26 pm to
And consumers.
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