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re: Florida is above Napiers pay-grade.

Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:56 am to
Posted by RobbBobb
Matt Flynn, BCS MVP
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 11:56 am to
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He might do just fine

Then it will be a rare exception

Kelly and Tressell won national championships before they made it in P5. Urban had 2 conf titles in 2 years at a soon to be P5 school, before making it at UF

Napier won 1 conf title in a weak G5 conf. He simply doesnt have the history that other successful G5 coaches had when they jumped

Napier is more akin to Fuente, 1 conf title in G5, now fired from P5. Or Fleck had 1 conf title, and has 4+ losses in 4 of 5 P5 years. Or Clawson who had 1 conf title, and still hasnt won his conf in 8 years at a P5
Posted by geauxkoo
Member since Oct 2021
1369 posts
Posted on 12/6/21 at 12:14 pm to
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Then it will be a rare exception

Kelly and Tressell won national championships before they made it in P5. Urban had 2 conf titles in 2 years at a soon to be P5 school, before making it at UF

Napier won 1 conf title in a weak G5 conf. He simply doesnt have the history that other successful G5 coaches had when they jumped

Napier is more akin to Fuente, 1 conf title in G5, now fired from P5. Or Fleck had 1 conf title, and has 4+ losses in 4 of 5 P5 years. Or Clawson who had 1 conf title, and still hasnt won his conf in 8 years at a P5


I don't think most people can truly appreciate the difference between P5 schools and the rest of the country. There is a ginourmous delta between P5 and non P5 schools in talent.

Schemes that work at UL will not work against P5 defenses. Throwing windows get tighter, time in the pocket gets shorter, pass rush gets faster, and running lanes get smaller. The game is played differently as the P5 level.

It is not apples to apples going from UL to UF.
Posted by bgator85
Sarasota
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 12/6/21 at 1:28 pm to
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Then it will be a rare exception

Kelly and Tressell won national championships before they made it in P5. Urban had 2 conf titles in 2 years at a soon to be P5 school, before making it at UF

Napier won 1 conf title in a weak G5 conf. He simply doesnt have the history that other successful G5 coaches had when they jumped

Napier is more akin to Fuente, 1 conf title in G5, now fired from P5. Or Fleck had 1 conf title, and has 4+ losses in 4 of 5 P5 years. Or Clawson who had 1 conf title, and still hasnt won his conf in 8 years at a P5


Something that does distinguish him, however is that he has high level experience as an assistant. The biggest school Fuente ever worked for was TCU (?). Norvell was Arizona State. Napier having worked at places like Bama and Clemson, he's not unfamiliar with the expectations and requirements to be successful at this level.
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