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Does The Dark Knight overshadow The Dark Knight Rises too much?
Posted on 10/14/22 at 7:48 am
Posted on 10/14/22 at 7:48 am
We can all say this is a great trilogy. All three movies are fantastic.
Heath Ledger's performance overshadowed everything in this series, and for good reason. It's cliche to say that now, but goodness, he was completely amazing in that role.
But my question remains. The Dark Knight Rises is a damn good movie too, but does it get the love it deserves from being so overshadowed by The Dark Knight?
Seems nobody brings it up much as a great movie, because everything thinks of The Dark Knight as being so good.
Heath Ledger's performance overshadowed everything in this series, and for good reason. It's cliche to say that now, but goodness, he was completely amazing in that role.
But my question remains. The Dark Knight Rises is a damn good movie too, but does it get the love it deserves from being so overshadowed by The Dark Knight?
Seems nobody brings it up much as a great movie, because everything thinks of The Dark Knight as being so good.
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Posted on 10/14/22 at 7:54 am to i am dan
The Dark Knight Rises is a mediocre film at best.
Posted on 10/14/22 at 7:55 am to i am dan
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All three movies are fantastic.
Naw
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The Dark Knight Rises is a damn good movie too
Naw
This post was edited on 10/14/22 at 7:56 am
Posted on 10/14/22 at 7:57 am to i am dan
TDK has some plot issues, but the performances completely overshadow them and overall it's a very good film.
TDKR has much bigger plot holes and the performances aren't nearly as strong to overcome them. Film is decent to good, but not more than that.
TDKR has much bigger plot holes and the performances aren't nearly as strong to overcome them. Film is decent to good, but not more than that.
Posted on 10/14/22 at 7:57 am to SlowFlowPro
What's so bad about it? I thought it was pretty good.
I know some people don't care for the Bane character, but I liked him. Probably best not to compare him to the Joker for sure though.
Is it just that the characters aren't as memorable to you or just to much chaos in the storylines?
I know some people don't care for the Bane character, but I liked him. Probably best not to compare him to the Joker for sure though.
Is it just that the characters aren't as memorable to you or just to much chaos in the storylines?
Posted on 10/14/22 at 8:00 am to i am dan
The Dark Knight Rises is extremely shitty
Posted on 10/14/22 at 8:09 am to Big_Slim
TDKR is a very, very flawed movie. It's entertaining and enjoyable, sure. But I remember having so many issues with it due to things either not making logical (or logistical) sense within the movie, or plots just being completely stupid (such as building Bane up for the entire movie only to have him basically end up being a lap dog for the "true" villain, who was a frail girl).
Entertaining movie, but not very good really. Whereas TDK is legit awesome in almost all aspects.
Entertaining movie, but not very good really. Whereas TDK is legit awesome in almost all aspects.
This post was edited on 10/14/22 at 8:10 am
Posted on 10/14/22 at 8:20 am to CocomoLSU
There is simply no way that Bruce Wayne would have been bankrupted by the stock exchange takeover that took place in the movie. That plot line was absolutely atrocious.
Bane was fine as a character. Marion is not beautiful enough to be Talia. Personal preference, I know, but as a Batman comic book fan in the past, she just was not Talia.
The movie suffered immensely from Heath's death. As respectful as Nolan was about it, there should have been SOME nod in TDKR as to why even in the midst of trying to bring about utter chaos in turning the world upside down they could not let the Joker out.
I've posted on this site previously about this, but as great as the trilogy is as a whole, the timeline makes it so that Bruce is Batman for a total of about 18 months from start to finish. That was completely mishandled, and once you get past the performances, which are great, that fact is so glaring and jarring to me.
Bane was fine as a character. Marion is not beautiful enough to be Talia. Personal preference, I know, but as a Batman comic book fan in the past, she just was not Talia.
The movie suffered immensely from Heath's death. As respectful as Nolan was about it, there should have been SOME nod in TDKR as to why even in the midst of trying to bring about utter chaos in turning the world upside down they could not let the Joker out.
I've posted on this site previously about this, but as great as the trilogy is as a whole, the timeline makes it so that Bruce is Batman for a total of about 18 months from start to finish. That was completely mishandled, and once you get past the performances, which are great, that fact is so glaring and jarring to me.
Posted on 10/14/22 at 8:25 am to Michael T. Tiger
Outside of a few plot holes I simply don’t hate the hate for Rises. I think it stems from following begins and DK. But it’s still really solid
Posted on 10/14/22 at 8:27 am to i am dan
I enjoy all 3, Begins has always been my favorite. TDKR has grown on me a lot over the years. I really enjoy it now despite it's flaws.
Posted on 10/14/22 at 8:29 am to i am dan
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Heath Ledger's performance overshadowed everything in this series, and for good reason. It's cliche to say that now, but goodness, he was completely amazing in that role.
Oh my god
Please quit thinking of his role as joker being amazing bc you want to believe this guy killed himself to make this movie. That is the only reason any of you think like the OP quote. It was a decent performance, but not good enough to overshadow the Nolan trilogy.
Posted on 10/14/22 at 8:31 am to CocomoLSU
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stupid (such as building Bane up for the entire movie only to have him basically end up being a lap dog for the "true" villain, who was a frail girl).
It has its flaws, but I've never understood this complaint. So he's the #2 for the league of shadows...so what? Doesn't make him any less of a badass.
Is Darth Vader any less of a villain for being #2?
This post was edited on 10/14/22 at 8:33 am
Posted on 10/14/22 at 8:31 am to Michael T. Tiger
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the timeline makes it so that Bruce is Batman for a total of about 18 months from start to finish.
This is not true. He functioned as Batman long after the events in the Dark Knight, just more from the shadows. This is proven by the existence of the Batcave in the rebuilt house, and by the wear on his body that was worse than at the end of that movie.
This post was edited on 10/14/22 at 8:32 am
Posted on 10/14/22 at 8:35 am to RosyFinchBOYZ
Don’t care, fixed autopilot
Posted on 10/14/22 at 8:40 am to Michael T. Tiger
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There is simply no way that Bruce Wayne would have been bankrupted by the stock exchange takeover that took place in the movie. That plot line was absolutely atrocious.
Lucius Fox: "In the long run we we could prove fraud, but as for right now you're completely broke."
It was more seizing and freezing his assets as CEO of a major corporation than him being one step from homeless.
Posted on 10/14/22 at 8:40 am to i am dan
The death scene of the “lead” villain may be the worst thing to ever be included in a blockbuster release
Posted on 10/14/22 at 8:42 am to i am dan
The Dark Knight Rises is only considered a good movie because it came after The Dark Knight
it has not aged well
it has not aged well
Posted on 10/14/22 at 8:43 am to MRF
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This is not true. He functioned as Batman long after the events in the Dark Knight, just more from the shadows. This is proven by the existence of the Batcave in the rebuilt house, and by the wear on his body that was worse than at the end of that movie.
It is true. After The Dark Knight, he went and hid, taken on the burden of being the hunted. In TDKR the even say no one had seen him in years.
Posted on 10/14/22 at 8:44 am to RedPants
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Lucius Fox: "In the long run we we could prove fraud, but as for right now you're completely broke."
The stock exchange was held up at gunpoint. There was a police lockdown and hostages. Why in the frick would it take any time at all to determine that this was fraud?
Posted on 10/14/22 at 8:53 am to RLDSC FAN
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It has its flaws, but I've never understood this complaint. So he's the #2 for the league of shadows...so what? Doesn't make him any less of a badass.
It was the way it was handled. He went from overpowering badass to whimpering lap dog. And him basically being offed by a shitty woman driver was icing on the cake as to the disservice they did to the character IMO.
But that's just one of the many flaws.
Broken back being fixed so simply.
Stock exchange (which is being discussed already).
Bane's neutering.
Sending every single available cop underground.
Etc.
Etc.
Just very few things made sense at all from a logic and logistical standpoint.
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