- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
Houston Texans draft options.
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:40 pm
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:40 pm
The Texans have the #2, #12, and #33 picks and a shite ton of cap room. I feel it is a no brainer for the Texans to trade down with the #2 pick IF we assume they see little to no difference between Young and Stroud. Big IF, but not out of the realm of possibility.
The draft order of the first seven teams with draft needs shown (sourced from PFF and Pro Football Network.)
1 Chicago Bears (WR, TE, OL, DL, LB, DB)
2 Texans (QB, C, DL)
3 Arizona Cardinals (G, C, ED, CB)
4 Indianapolis Colts (QB, OL)
5 Seattle (G, C, DL)
6 Detroit Lions (DI, LB, CB)
7 Las Vegas Raiders (QB, OL, DB)
At #2 overall, it is guaranteed they can get the guy they want. Barring other teams trading up, its almost a lock that Young or Stroud will be there at #4 as it would be shocking if Arizona went QB at #3.
Scenario #1
Trade #2 overall to Indy for #4, #35, Indy's 1st round pick in 2024 at minimum. They hopefully get Stroud/Young at #4. Obviously the risk here is AZ taking Stroud or trading to someone how does. The biggest upside is Indy will likely suck in '23 making that 1st round pick top-5-10. This seems like an easy decision to make.
Scenario #2
Trade #2 overall to Raiders for #7 and Raiders 1st round picks in 2024 and 2025 and possible 3rd round pick this year. I go this route in a heartbeat. Assuming Stroud and Young are both gone, you go with Levis, or go with Mills another year. You would have two 1st round picks in'24, a ton of cap room, a pick coming up at #12 and even the opportunity to trade down again.
Obviously, these scenarios aren't as straight forward if they feel there is a huge gap between Young and Stroud. Do they play it safe and take their guy at #2 or trade down? If so, how far?
The draft order of the first seven teams with draft needs shown (sourced from PFF and Pro Football Network.)
1 Chicago Bears (WR, TE, OL, DL, LB, DB)
2 Texans (QB, C, DL)
3 Arizona Cardinals (G, C, ED, CB)
4 Indianapolis Colts (QB, OL)
5 Seattle (G, C, DL)
6 Detroit Lions (DI, LB, CB)
7 Las Vegas Raiders (QB, OL, DB)
At #2 overall, it is guaranteed they can get the guy they want. Barring other teams trading up, its almost a lock that Young or Stroud will be there at #4 as it would be shocking if Arizona went QB at #3.
Scenario #1
Trade #2 overall to Indy for #4, #35, Indy's 1st round pick in 2024 at minimum. They hopefully get Stroud/Young at #4. Obviously the risk here is AZ taking Stroud or trading to someone how does. The biggest upside is Indy will likely suck in '23 making that 1st round pick top-5-10. This seems like an easy decision to make.
Scenario #2
Trade #2 overall to Raiders for #7 and Raiders 1st round picks in 2024 and 2025 and possible 3rd round pick this year. I go this route in a heartbeat. Assuming Stroud and Young are both gone, you go with Levis, or go with Mills another year. You would have two 1st round picks in'24, a ton of cap room, a pick coming up at #12 and even the opportunity to trade down again.
Obviously, these scenarios aren't as straight forward if they feel there is a huge gap between Young and Stroud. Do they play it safe and take their guy at #2 or trade down? If so, how far?
13
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:43 pm to Basura Blanco
I doubt they trade down. I expect them to stay and pick Young or Stroud
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:46 pm to Basura Blanco
Yeah... I'd bet Stroud and Young are going 1 and 2, in whichever order.
If I was the Texans, I'd hang tight and not worry about someone jumping me. They need to build an entire roster, not just get a QB.
If I was the Texans, I'd hang tight and not worry about someone jumping me. They need to build an entire roster, not just get a QB.
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:47 pm to Basura Blanco
Not trading down, they’ll let whomever picks at #1 help their decision between Stroud and Young.
Not sure why I keep hearing about Caserio being on the hot seat considering he took over a dumpster fire of a roster and payroll coupled with only having 5 picks in his first draft and didn’t pick until 3rd round.
Not sure why I keep hearing about Caserio being on the hot seat considering he took over a dumpster fire of a roster and payroll coupled with only having 5 picks in his first draft and didn’t pick until 3rd round.
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:50 pm to Cliff Booth
quote:
I'd bet Stroud and Young are going 1 and 2, in whichever order. If I was the Texans, I'd hang tight and not worry about someone jumping me.
Yeah, that is certainly the risk here.
quote:
They need to build an entire roster, not just get a QB
That's why they should take the risk and trade down imo. I guess it boils down to how much they love Young/Stroud over Mills and a shite ton of picks.
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:53 pm to bad93ex
quote:
Not trading down, they’ll let whomever picks at #1 help their decision between Stroud and Young.
With Fields, there is no way in hell the Bears are taking a QB at #1. They are the team that should be trading down. Its the prefect storm to do so as they would likely get their guy at #4 regardless if they traded with Indy.
Posted on 3/10/23 at 2:56 pm to Basura Blanco
quote:
Scenario #2
Trade #2 overall to Raiders for #7 and Raiders 1st round picks in 2024 and 2025 and possible 3rd round pick this year.
Raiders have no desire to trade their #7 pick much less thinking you would get another one lmao.
Posted on 3/10/23 at 3:00 pm to Basura Blanco
Trading down is always easier said than done.
Posted on 3/10/23 at 3:01 pm to Basura Blanco
Stay at 2 and pick Levis
Posted on 3/10/23 at 3:05 pm to Basura Blanco
I'm assuming Indianapolis is going to end up trading up to 1 and take Bryce Young. Texans will probably take Stroud.
Posted on 3/10/23 at 3:24 pm to Basura Blanco
quote:
Trade #2 overall to Indy for #4, #35, Indy's 1st round pick in 2024 at minimum
Why would Indy give up a 2nd rounder this year and a 1st rounder next year to move up 2 spots, when they could just get someone they likely value somewhat equally in their current #4 spot?
Posted on 3/10/23 at 3:34 pm to Basura Blanco
Bryce Young is a generational talent that you must trade UP to get.
Posted on 3/10/23 at 3:36 pm to JodyPlauche
quote:
Stay at 2 and pick Levis
Posted on 3/10/23 at 3:43 pm to WG_Dawg
quote:
Why would Indy give up a 2nd rounder this year and a 1st rounder next year to move up 2 spots, when they could just get someone they likely value somewhat equally in their current #4 spot?
While I totally agree the premise that Indy should sit tight, NFL teams do it all the time, especially when they rate a particular QB over all others.
As for the value of that move, the PFF mock draft simulator put it at 50/50 that the trade as shown would be accepted. It put it at Likely (whatever that means) that a simple switch of picks and Indy's #1 in'24 would be accepted. All of this is mute of course unless Indy wants to make the trade.
Posted on 3/10/23 at 3:48 pm to Basura Blanco
quote:
Trade #2 overall to Indy for #4, #35, Indy's 1st round pick in 2024 at minimum. They hopefully get Stroud/Young at #4
I cannot possibly imagine Houston trading the #2 overall pick to a division rival to allow them to have the franchise QB of their choice when Houston also needs a franchise QB.
Posted on 3/10/23 at 3:54 pm to SteelerBravesDawg
quote:
Trading down is always easier said than done.
I thought so as well until I saw that the #6 or higher overall pick has been used to trade down six times in the last ten years. The #2 pick itself has been traded three times in ten years.
When you look at rookie contracts compared to veteran contracts, especially for high salaried players (QB, WR, Edge Rusher, and Cornerback), it makes sense to stack those positions with guys on rookie deals. It seems to me the accumulation of 1st-3rd round picks would be the goal. But what the hell do I know, I am a Texans and Saints fan.
Posted on 3/10/23 at 3:56 pm to Basura Blanco
Don’t forget they also have the 63rd and 75th picks.
I know everyone likes to focus on the top of the draft, but the Texans have 5 of the first 75 picks in the draft.
I know everyone likes to focus on the top of the draft, but the Texans have 5 of the first 75 picks in the draft.
Posted on 3/10/23 at 3:59 pm to VADawg
I havent kept close tabs. Is mills that bad or is it whats around him
Posted on 3/10/23 at 4:01 pm to VADawg
quote:
I cannot possibly imagine Houston trading the #2 overall pick to a division rival to allow them to have the franchise QB of their choice when Houston also needs a franchise QB.
That's probably the best reason why a trade will not happen between the two. Not necessarily due to the franchise QB angle, but for the fact neither team wants the risk of looking like idiots if the trade in any form should end up being one sided.
As for the trade itself, I was making the (likely unrealistic) assumption that Houston did not see a difference between Young and Stroud. Going off that assumption, they are leaving one of the two for Indy regardless.
Posted on 3/10/23 at 4:09 pm to ETxTgr
quote:
I havent kept close tabs. Is mills that bad or is it whats around him
That consideration lost importance after he had a fairly average season this year. If the Texans do not trade the pick, 100% they take a QB with it. If not the Texans, someone is taking one of those two guys with the #2 pick.
The Texans have a solid young team in a few areas and are desperate in others. QB is one of the few positions that they are simply average/jury still out. Personally, I would trade it as I don't feel Young or Stroud (and especially none of the others) is worth #2 overall, but I cant think of a single NFL team that would agree.
Page 1 of 2
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News