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We always lament about 1/9/12
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:24 pm
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:24 pm
But I think 11/18/11 was worse. There was a feeling we'd lose the rematch since the loser of the first game has ALL the advantages in a rematch.
But to have your best team ever not be remembered in the same vein as teams like 1995 Nebraska and 2001 Miami because a 28-point favorite couldn't take care of business is simply tragic. To my knowledge, 2011 LSU is the only team to have their national title hopes essentially ruined by a huge upset in a game not involving themselves. We did everything right and still got screwed. It's different than scenarios like 2009 Cincinnati, where they needed the upset to happen, and it didn't. We didn't want the upset to happen, but it did. That's what makes it that much more unfortunate.
The link to the video is in my signature.
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But to have your best team ever not be remembered in the same vein as teams like 1995 Nebraska and 2001 Miami because a 28-point favorite couldn't take care of business is simply tragic. To my knowledge, 2011 LSU is the only team to have their national title hopes essentially ruined by a huge upset in a game not involving themselves. We did everything right and still got screwed. It's different than scenarios like 2009 Cincinnati, where they needed the upset to happen, and it didn't. We didn't want the upset to happen, but it did. That's what makes it that much more unfortunate.
The link to the video is in my signature.
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Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:27 pm to karmew32
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We did everything right and still got screwed.
We did nothing right in the NC game. Even with Alabama supposedly having an advantage in the rematch, we should have put up more of a fight. That 2011 team deserves to be remembered exactly the way it is: a special team that had a chance to accomplish something amazing but blew it.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:29 pm to Nuts4LSU
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That 2011 team deserves to be remembered exactly the way it is
GOAT Fullback grouping.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:30 pm to karmew32
I was just thinking about the "best team of all time" talk the other day. That team didn't belong anywhere near that discussion with the lack of offense. More than deserving in the best D and best ST, but you have to be elite in all 3 facets to warrant best of all time and we simply weren't.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:31 pm to karmew32
After that game, it was clear to me that Les Miles was not going to win anything again. He had to go, but it took entirely too long. Makes me wonder just what kind of leadership LSU has at the 'top'.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:33 pm to Nuts4LSU
I never bothered watching a taped replay of that game. It had been a long time since I had seen LSU that impotent. Les Miles should have had enough brains to know that Saban was prepping for a rematch the moment after the 9-6 loss. What worked then was not going to work on 1/9/12. Saban knew that. Miles did not have a clue.
It's going to take a couple of years of really good recruiting and development to have a decent chance against Saban and Alabama.
It's going to take a couple of years of really good recruiting and development to have a decent chance against Saban and Alabama.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:33 pm to karmew32
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2011 LSU is the only team to have their national title hopes essentially ruined by a huge upset in a game not involving themselves. We did everything right and still got screwed.
but we still could have won it on the field.
we played for the championship............and lost
why cant you crybabies understand that
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:35 pm to LSUStar
honestly though, the stuff that happened to get us into the title game in 2007 was on the other end of the spectrum spectrum to your example...you take the rough with the smooth.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:36 pm to Nuts4LSU
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Nuts4LSU
Agreed. Les crapped the bed harder than any coach in history and it's unfortunate that it overshadowed everything from that incredible season. You saw last night how both sides had some plays left up their sleeve for deep in the game when it was time to pull out all stops, in the biggest game, for all the marbles. Les didn't...
I also have a confession... I may be responsible for jinxing the team by saying "we just won the national championship" after the win in Tuscaloosa. My bad.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:38 pm to Nuts4LSU
LSU got screwed by having to beat a conference opponent it had already beaten. LSU's win was essentially nullified - LSU's "reward" for beating Bama on its home field was to play an extra game vs UGA and then give Bama a do over.
Bama was not deserving of a rematch with LSU under the system that was in place. The Gumps were actually rewarded for losing that game.
Bama was not deserving of a rematch with LSU under the system that was in place. The Gumps were actually rewarded for losing that game.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:38 pm to StormTiger
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honestly though, the stuff that happened to get us into the title game in 2007 was on the other end of the spectrum spectrum to your example...you take the rough with the smooth.
Ohio State didn't beat us in the regular season. We didn't even play each other until the NCG. It would be like if they had to play Michigan again after winning the 2006 GoTC.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:47 pm to karmew32
100 years from now researchers will still be trying to figure out what in the hell LSU was trying to accomplish on offense.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:49 pm to karmew32
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We always lament about 1/9/12
Speak for yourself.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:52 pm to lsusa
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LSU got screwed by having to beat a conference opponent it had already beaten. LSU's win was essentially nullified - LSU's "reward" for beating Bama on its home field was to play an extra game vs UGA and then give Bama a do over.
Bama was not deserving of a rematch with LSU under the system that was in place. The Gumps were actually rewarded for losing that game.
I agree with all of that.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:55 pm to lsusa
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LSU got screwed by having to beat a conference opponent it had already beaten. LSU's win was essentially nullified - LSU's "reward" for beating Bama on its home field was to play an extra game vs UGA and then give Bama a do over.
Bama was not deserving of a rematch with LSU under the system that was in place. The Gumps were actually rewarded for losing that game.
And it sucks because if the GoTC had gone the other way, no way we get the mulligan. Which is stupid in this context considering Bama hosted the GoTC.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 12:58 pm to StormTiger
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honestly though, the stuff that happened to get us into the title game in 2007 was on the other end of the spectrum spectrum to your example...you take the rough with the smooth.
There was only one unexpected thing that happened that last weekend in 2007 that helped us: Pitt upsetting West Virginia. Even that was a huge rivalry game where anything can happen. Oklahoma beat Missouri like everyone expected them to, LSU beat Tennessee like everyone expected us to and all the other relevant games went the way they were expected to. For the #2 slot, it came down to LSU and a team we had beaten by six touchdowns head to head. It was an easy decision for poll voters, as it should have been.
Pitt's upset of WVU was certainly no more surprising, and arguably much less so, than Iowa State beating Oklahoma State in 2011. Also, it's far from clear that OSU missed that FG at the end of regulation. It was a questionable call.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:00 pm to Nuts4LSU
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We did nothing right in the NC game.
Our defense and special teams were out-fricking-standing. People seem to want to forget that
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:03 pm to Nuts4LSU
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There was only one unexpected thing that happened that last weekend in 2007 that helped us: Pitt upsetting West Virginia. Even that was a huge rivalry game where anything can happen. Oklahoma beat Missouri like everyone expected them to, LSU beat Tennessee like everyone expected us to and all the other relevant games went the way they were expected to. For the #2 slot, it came down to LSU and a team we had beaten by six touchdowns head to head. It was an easy decision for poll voters, as it should have been.
Pitt's upset of WVU was certainly no more surprising, and arguably much less so, than Iowa State beating Oklahoma State in 2011. Also, it's far from clear that OSU missed that FG at the end of regulation. It was a questionable call.
The more I torture myself by watching that kick, the more I think it was good.
The best analogy I can think of is winning a lottery in which you lose all your money if you win, and everyone else gets a share of your money.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:14 pm to karmew32
At the end of the day that team will be forgotten. No one remembers second place. Hell, I was having a conversation about LAST year's CSW and no one in the group could remember who Coastal Carolina played in the championship.
Posted on 1/10/17 at 1:18 pm to StealthCalais11
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At the end of the day that team will be forgotten. No one remembers second place. Hell, I was having a conversation about LAST year's CSW and no one in the group could remember who Coastal Carolina played in the championship.
The sad part is it wasn't our fault. The greatest LSU football team ever will be forgotten because a 28-point favorite blew a 17-point lead and got screwed by a bad call on a made FG. This coming on a night where they weren't emotionally right due to the plane crash, which really puts football into perspective.
This post was edited on 1/10/17 at 1:19 pm
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