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UT-A&M rivalry came to an end once before
Posted on 11/20/11 at 11:05 pm
Posted on 11/20/11 at 11:05 pm
UT-A&M rivalry came to an end once before
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Varsity fans also grumbled that Moran taught "slugging," the era's description of dirty football, and chanted, "To hell, to hell, with Charley Moran and all his dirty crew. If you don't like the words to this song, to hell, to hell with you."
Holm countered, "He taught rough football but I never knew it to be dirty. He taught winning football."
When the teams met Nov. 13, 1911, at West End Park, Texas lost lineman Marlon Harold to a broken leg on the first play. But in the second period, A&M halfback A.R. Bateman fumbled at the College 15-yard line and Texas halfback Arnold Kirkpatrick returned it for a touchdown.
Earth-shaking victory
Kirkpatrick's five-point TD, plus the extra point, accounted for the scoring in a 6-0 Texas win that was sufficiently shocking, the Chronicle wrote, to "shake every office building in Houston."
Afterward, some of the 10,000 fans in attendance were said to have ripped their way through a picket fence to commence fisticuffs. Kern Tips described it in his book Football Texas Style as "a dilly of a donnybrook," and Texas football historian Lou Maysel wrote, "It was unsafe in downtown Houston for anyone wearing Texas colors as bands of A&M students roamed the streets."
The next day, W.T. Mather, chairman of the UT athletic council, wrote his A&M counterpart, "I beg to inform you that the athletic council of the University of Texas has decided not to enter any athletic relations with the Agricultural and Mechanical College of Texas for the year 1912."
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Texas team manager Stephen F. Pinckney told the Austin American-Statesman that A&M "has earned a reputation for rotten athletics. … They admit trying to injure some of our men."
"I never played in so dirty a game in my life," said Texas lineman Marshall Ramsdell. "… (A&M players) use brute force and break legs and arms and heads by slugging if necessary."
The Bryan Eagle responded with the headline "Varsity Curses Sent Home to Roost/Slanderous Charges of Texas University Athletic Authorities Refuted by Positive and Incontestable Evidence."
"The football team, the student body, the athletic council, the faculty and the alumni association have found nothing wrong in Mr. Moran's systems or tactics," wrote J.B. Bagley, A&M athletic council president.
And so the teams parted. Texas lost just two games over the next three years and was unbeaten in 1914. A&M in 1912, with what was considered Moran's best team, outscored opponents 366-25, but the lost revenue from the Texas game, Holm wrote, "all but sent our athletic department into bankruptcy."
Quietly, former A&M players Hal Moseley and Joe Utay began talks with Texas, which in 1913 hired Theo Bellmont from his job as secretary of the Houston YMCA to be athletic director, to revive the series.
On Nov. 30, 1914, the schools agreed to play again in 1915. A few days later, Moran resigned, citing "immediate pressure of other business" in his home state of Kentucky.
Parting wish
He received a full dress parade from the Corps and was made an honorary member of the Class of 1913. As A&M prepared to play Texas in 1915, he wrote each player a letter that concluded, "If you still love me and think anything of me, then beat Texas."
They complied, winning 13-0 in the first A&M-Texas game at College Station, and the A&M athletic department recorded a net profit of $3,429.07 - roughly the amount that Texas, with its $152 million athletic budget spends every 15 minutes these days.
Posted on 11/20/11 at 11:24 pm to daboman of Aggieland
I'll be ready Thursday. I'll be game day whiskey drunk and ready for a good dilly of a donnybrook 

Posted on 11/21/11 at 2:13 am to Big Kat
Tickets are in the drawer as I type this.
One last time, with feeling.
One last time, with feeling.

Posted on 11/21/11 at 7:09 am to LSU1860
I look forward to hearing the SEC chant
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:29 am to Smoke Ring
I'll be there - covered in purple and gold, but cheering for the Aggies all the way
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:20 am to Uncle Stu
I'll be looking for ya on the tube!!! Couldn't score tickets to the game (a fact that tears me up inside), but I'll be there for the Corps march-in. Saw some horns off for me, y'all!!!
BEAT THE frick OUTTA t.u.!
BEAT THE frick OUTTA t.u.!
Posted on 11/21/11 at 11:27 am to TbirdSpur2010
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I'll be there - covered in purple and gold, but cheering for the Aggies all the way
If I see any Tiger fans they're getting free Beer or Turkey & Dressing at my tailgate, and my wife makes some mean arse cornbread dressing with lots of sage.
I guarantee that this is going to be one hell of a game.

Posted on 11/21/11 at 12:12 pm to daboman of Aggieland
i may not live long enough to see it, but y'alls game will continue again some time in the future. cooler heads will prevail. ut is acting like a bunch of 4 yr olds but many of them are old and when the leaders of the "ostrasize (sp) the aggies" movement retires or dies the new leaders will realize its a jewell of a game (and a profitable one at that). same as uga/ga tech; florida/fsu; usce vs clemson, etc.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 1:33 pm to LSU GrandDad
If we get to the point where it would be an automatic victory over texas every year then you will never see that game scheduled again.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 3:26 pm to LSU GrandDad
quote:If A&M ever runs off a period of sustained success while Texas falls into a prolonged period of mediocrity, the powers that be in Austin will conclude that the fastest way to turn the tables would be to resume head-to-head competition. If history is any guide, it will happen at some point.
i may not live long enough to see it, but y'alls game will continue again some time in the future. cooler heads will prevail. ut is acting like a bunch of 4 yr olds but many of them are old and when the leaders of the "ostrasize (sp) the aggies" movement retires or dies the new leaders will realize its a jewell of a game (and a profitable one at that). same as uga/ga tech; florida/fsu; usce vs clemson, etc.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 5:23 pm to Smoke Ring
I'll also be toting extra brews to give to any SEC brothers I see
BTHO tu
Stu, have you been to Kyle before? The sustained noise for this game will be impressive

BTHO tu

Stu, have you been to Kyle before? The sustained noise for this game will be impressive
Posted on 11/21/11 at 7:35 pm to Big Kat
will there be a LOUD SEC chant throughout the game when you're burying some sawed off horns?
Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:00 pm to Daigeaux
I would expect that once the game is out of hand it will rain down. So sometime in the mid 4th Q with the Ags up 27-10 you're TV speakers will burst with S-E-C chants.
If I'm a casual fan Im tuning in to this game. It's a 100 year heated war come to a head. Lots of hate. Expect a couple licks laid.
I'm calling 4 QB sacks by the Ags on the night. 2 by Damontre Moore, 1 by Sean Porter, and 1 off a corner blitz
If I'm a casual fan Im tuning in to this game. It's a 100 year heated war come to a head. Lots of hate. Expect a couple licks laid.
I'm calling 4 QB sacks by the Ags on the night. 2 by Damontre Moore, 1 by Sean Porter, and 1 off a corner blitz

Posted on 11/21/11 at 8:24 pm to Big Kat
yeah a few times, I try and go to one a year
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:09 pm to Uncle Stu
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If I see any Tiger fans they're getting free Beer or Turkey & Dressing at my tailgate, and my wife makes some mean arse cornbread dressing with lots of sage.
I'll be outside Reed Arena tailgating. Are you near?

I think it's a money maker with A&M playing tu.
Why can't Deloss pay a team to get it off it's schedule? Has he said anything?
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