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re: Reluctantly A&M will head to PAC 10 with Texas, in my opinion

Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by SaltyAg
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:40 pm to
holy crap, orangeblood will ban that guy within the hour.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:40 pm to
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I have tailgated at Udub, Oregon state and Oregon......those people must not know the law and the police are just letting it slide I guess.

I am in now way comparing tailgating to the sec but your version certainly isn't true from my experiences.


That was the rule at Arizona St.

And places like the Rose Bowl tailgating is basically not allowed on the area surrounding it.
Posted by TigerInBamaLand
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:40 pm to
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you care about looking at an ocean. I can do that in Destin.
Not to be a dick ... but no you cant
Posted by molsusports
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:40 pm to
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no,, its just funny that SEC fans cant see past thier own myopic outlook

the PAC 10 combination is MORE big markets to sell the product in,, $$$$$

Ive said plenty of time the best football in the country in played from Fla to Texas

but this isnt about football its about $$



I think the question is one of money - and I'm not sure where the best interests of everyone end up being.

PAC 10 football has been poorly marketed but it suffers from one fundamental problem that hurts it's TV revenue more - location. esp for later games they are too late for most of the country on the East Coast and perhaps midwest to watch regularly (and that is most of the population in the US)

So, what will be interesting is how many midwest teams of national interest the PAC can grab to change the equation - Texas and OU are an outstanding start but they (minus Nebraska) were already the features in the Big 12 - which also didn't command much in the way of television money
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:41 pm to
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Not to be a dick ... but no you ca


Ok not the ocean but some nice beaches and pretty water.
Posted by Carlos Santannaclaus
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:41 pm to
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Not to be a dick ... but no you cant


Dick.
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:43 pm to
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Not to mention watching your away games at 10 pm CST


another misconception.........they tend to have one night game a week unless there is a thursday game. I can see the 5 oclock being a slight issue but I think they will work all that out.

I think they will do what they can to make sure they keep those huge tv markets tuned in so they don't lose money.......which is what all of this is about. Just because things have been done one way doesn't mean it will stay that way, they need to appease the incoming teams in order to get what they want in the end.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:43 pm to
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which also didn't command much in the way of television money



Texas wants TAMU with them, among other reasons, because they want the entire Texas market to follow them to the Pac. With TAMU not going, those markets of Houston, Dallas, San Antonio, etc. are given more exposure to the SEC and somewhat hurts the Pac gaining the full market.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:44 pm to
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another misconception.........they tend to have one night game a week unless there is a thursday game. I can see the 5 oclock being a slight issue but I think they will work all that out.

I think they will do what they can to make sure they keep those huge tv markets tuned in so they don't lose money.......which is what all of this is about. Just because things have been done one way doesn't mean it will stay that way, they need to appease the incoming teams in order to get what they want in the end.


That was just an example.
Posted by Books
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:45 pm to
Will teams on the West coast w/ no connections to Tex Tech, UT, and OSU tune in when they don't follow CFB all that much to begin w/?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:46 pm to
The B12 contingent would mean a couple games a year (in football) vs a west opponent. Its really not going to change a lot. Tejas and OU would compete for the Fiesta, with a game or two on the west coast. It really doesn't change a whole lot. It almost sounds like they want two separate conferences under one banner.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:47 pm to
Nobody will care about texas tech and oklahoma st. except for the pre-existing markets in the current Big 12. Unlike the SEC where we tune in regardless of the teams.
Posted by tuck
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:47 pm to
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this texas fan gets it

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Re: Per Chip: UT, OU, TT, Ok St confirm they'll go to Pac-10; date set Reply
i don't think realizing that A&M bent us over the table on this deal is being a pussy. they want to join the best conference in America. we want to join one where their bellcow will be nonexistent for 2 years and everybody else doesn't even care about football.

what is truth is, we have some real pussies in our admin. they don't want the SEC because they don't think they will win as much. THAT is pussy shite. all the other excuses for the SEC are just that: excuses. Pac10 has USC who just got hit harder than anyone in a long, long time. SEC's academics are BETTER than the Big 12's where we didn't seem to mind. Vandy doesn't seem to mind the SEC.



This is the type of Texas fan I was referring to arrakis. He gets it.
Posted by Carlos Santannaclaus
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:50 pm to
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Nobody will care about texas tech and oklahoma st. except for the pre-existing markets in the current Big 12. Unlike the SEC where we tune in regardless of the teams.


Why is that, anyway? I went to Texas, and really only watched UT games, not others. My daughter went to LSU (the 2003 Florida game was my official cherry-breaker) and now I watch any SEC game that's on.
Posted by UtahHawg
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:52 pm to
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Nobody will care about texas tech and oklahoma st. except for the pre-existing markets in the current Big 12. Unlike the SEC where we tune in regardless of the teams.


Truth. There is good football played out here in the West. But they don't give a shite about what happens elsewhere in the nation.
Posted by OWLFAN86
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:53 pm to
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And OWLFAN, we're discussing CHARTER TEAM FLIGHTS. And if you don't realize that distance matters for flight costs I don't know what to tell you.
your plan involves only UT and A&M to the SEC

meaning they would play Arky,LSU,miss St Ole Miss, and Prolly Auburn in a 7 team division( barring further expansion east this would be most likely) PLUS at least ONE trip to the SEC east.. bama,GA FLa.Ken, Tenn,SC,vandy

RIGHT???


in the pac 10 they travel to such far away places as Norman,, stillwater,Lubbock ,College station,, and ONE trip to the state of AZ


Austin to BR ( the closet new destination in the SEC) is 395 miles


Austin to Stillwater is 399
Austin to Lubbock 326
College Station is a bus Drive
OU of cours eplayed in Dallas,

TEMPE the furthest divisional game 856
VS
Auburn the furthers Divsional For in the SEC
738


Cumulative the PAC 10 will be less travel than SEC would be for the fan,,and the charter with the exception of trip to Wash/Ore

BUT the diff in $$$$$ profits is not even close
This post was edited on 6/11/10 at 4:07 pm
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:55 pm to
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Why is that, anyway? I went to Texas, and really only watched UT games, not others. My daughter went to LSU (the 2003 Florida game was my official cherry-breaker) and now I watch any SEC game that's on.


I just think proximity, regardless of conference affiliation, will be tough for a fan in Washington to still care about that game. I think the same fans that cared about that game before will still care about it, but I don't think a single conference will easily unite the markets that didn't care about that game pre-expansion.
Posted by LSUintheNW
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:56 pm to
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That was the rule at Arizona St.

And places like the Rose Bowl tailgating is basically not allowed on the area surrounding it.


so you experience two tailgates and so that enables you to lump them all in together?

I can't quote rules for the OSU or Udub but I am always there bright and early when I go to a game around here.

I do know Oregon's general rules. I don't agree with them all but considering and compared to those you mentioned it isn't bad. If you park on the lot you can only be there 4 hours before kickoff and 4 hours afterwards, open containers are ok. Of course, there is quite a bit of other places to tailgate around the stadium where that rule doesn't apply and is where I go. Also, those lots fall under a law that is enacted on game days. Open containers are allowed, just not on the streets (although people definately do it, I know I do). I don't know any rules regarding generators and the like but I see it at all there at Autzen. Oregon fans can party and if they weren't limited would increase it. There is also a big lot across the street from Autzen where you can park your RV for the weekend or just plain camp.

Now is their party on the scale of the SEC? hell no......because sports isn't life here.
Posted by Tiger Authority
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:57 pm to
You will play Colorado and Arizona as well every year correct?


This post was edited on 6/11/10 at 3:58 pm
Posted by Brummy
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Posted on 6/11/10 at 3:57 pm to
From the SI article:

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If they choose the SEC -- and the SEC subsequently agreed to choose them -- entry would be simple. Texas A&M would need approval from nine of the 12 SEC presidents. It also would have to pay $50 in annual membership dues.


Is this a typo?
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