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re: Predict how many years it takes aTm to win: 1)the West 2)the SEC 3)a BCS Title
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:10 pm to Monticello
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:10 pm to Monticello
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Guys, this is not just some pushover team we added for tv markets. They are going to be a player in this conference.
record against big XII teams
Baylor 67-31
Iowa State 9-1
Kansas 8-2
Kansas State 8-6
Missouri 7-4
Oklahoma 11-18
Oklahoma State 17-9
Texas 37-75
Texas Tech 36-32
they weren't a player in a much weaker big XII
This post was edited on 9/22/11 at 9:11 pm
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Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:13 pm to stapuffmarshy
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you mean Angola West?
Since when were Baton Rouge, Tuscaloosa, Auburn or Gainesville on a list of major destination cities? Recruits care about the program and how far it is from momma, not the city. If anything the college town factor is what makes these players celebrities.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:13 pm to Monticello
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Kids from Texas (for the most part) will stay in Texas if there is a program that matches their caliber of ability.
you think this is gonna happen overnight?
if not overnight then when?
When is A&M gonna be nearly as big a draw for high school recruits as Alabama, LSU, or Florida?
i got news for you, college kids care about right now... and right now A&M isn't on our level. so we will keep pulling in better recruits and it will be hard for them to catch up
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:15 pm to sgallo3
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lol what!? they have only had a conference record above .500 3 times since 2002
Irrelevant...how many SEC titles did UF have before 1990? Get the right people running the show and who knows what could happen. In 1994, what did you think LSU's odds were of winning a national title within 10 years?
TAMU has all the ingredients to be a big time program...rabid fan base, tons of money, fertile recruiting area, now they have a better conference to sell to enhance recruiting. None of these ensures anything, but the infrastructure is there for success.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:16 pm to Monticello
Before Ole Miss for all three.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:18 pm to sgallo3
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When is A&M gonna be nearly as big a draw for high school recruits as Alabama, LSU, or Florida?
i got news for you, college kids care about right now... and right now A&M isn't on our level. so we will keep pulling in better recruits and it will be hard for them to catch up
I am glad you mentioned that because "right now" they have the #6 recruiting class in the nation. LSU is #9.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:18 pm to Monticello
trust me the campuses in those cities are extremly different.
I think you are over-estimating A&M as a program. We just totally disagree. You do know that Arky is probably a better overall program historically that A&M correct?
I think you are over-estimating A&M as a program. We just totally disagree. You do know that Arky is probably a better overall program historically that A&M correct?
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:21 pm to stapuffmarshy
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trust me the campuses in those cities are extremly different.
Differentiate Auburn from TAMU...both in perceived rural areas, both perceived little brothers to the flagship schools, both with huge fan bases, both close to large fertile recruiting areas...Atlanta, Houston...i'm not seeing huge differences there.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:21 pm to Monticello
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I am glad you mentioned that because "right now" they have the #6 recruiting class in the nation. LSU is #9.
they've had top 10 and top 20 classes almost every year for the past decade according to rivals..... i've got news for you star ratings dont mean shite
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:22 pm to stapuffmarshy
They have the right type of solid coach in place now. The infrastructure is there and the recruiting base is there. They will be competitive and in place to win it within 5 years at most.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:23 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
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Differentiate Auburn from TAMU...both in perceived rural areas, both perceived little brothers to the flagship schools, both with huge fan bases, both close to large fertile recruiting areas...Atlanta, Houston...i'm not seeing huge differences there.
Cam Newton is the only reason Auburn sniffed a national or SEC title in the past 8 years
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:23 pm to stapuffmarshy
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You do know that Arky is probably a better overall program historically that A&M correct?
Yes, I know this. College football has changed dramatically though. aTm has absolutely everything it needs to be a consistent national program, especially now that the "handcuff" to UT is off. Arkansas does not.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:25 pm to sgallo3
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Cam Newton is the only reason Auburn sniffed a national or SEC title in the past 8 years
Really? I guess their unbeaten 04 season was all my imagination.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:25 pm to volfan30
We will win the SEC and subsequently the west within 5 years. Our talent trajectory is headed way up.
Thank you. A&M going to the SEC doesnt mean all the elite talent is going out of state. It means the leftover talent that A&M, tu, or OU doesn't get will probably go east instead of the other big12 programs.
sgallo3-You're an LSU fan. Go back to the 90s. LSU was a sub .500 program for the decade. It would have been foolish to think that LSU didn't have the potential to be a dominant program in the SEC. The same could be said for Florida before the 90s. Why? Because big programs in talent rich states with money and support only require the right head coach. Thats it.
Sherman has raised the talent of the A&M programs exponentially. We will be competitive.
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Kids from Texas (for the most part) will stay in Texas if there is a program that matches their caliber of ability.
Thank you. A&M going to the SEC doesnt mean all the elite talent is going out of state. It means the leftover talent that A&M, tu, or OU doesn't get will probably go east instead of the other big12 programs.
sgallo3-You're an LSU fan. Go back to the 90s. LSU was a sub .500 program for the decade. It would have been foolish to think that LSU didn't have the potential to be a dominant program in the SEC. The same could be said for Florida before the 90s. Why? Because big programs in talent rich states with money and support only require the right head coach. Thats it.
Sherman has raised the talent of the A&M programs exponentially. We will be competitive.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:25 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
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Differentiate Auburn from TAMU...both in perceived rural areas, both perceived little brothers to the flagship schools, both with huge fan bases, both close to large fertile recruiting areas...Atlanta, Houston...i'm not seeing huge differences there.
Auburn won either by their full and complete team believing in God or they bought a championship?
A&M won't do the first and if they try the second well
I know two schools that will have the NCAA on speed dial so yes, A&M could win quick, with some cash or some grace from above
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:28 pm to stapuffmarshy
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Auburn won either by their full and complete team believing in God or they bought a championship?
so Cam was on that 04 team eh? And are you seriously telling me they don't compete for SEC titles?
and yeah, i know they didn't win the NC that year...still went unbeaten.
This post was edited on 9/22/11 at 9:36 pm
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:40 pm to Obi-Wan Tiger
Obi and Monticello, it's arguing with a wall. These younger posters solely look at Texas A&M under Francione because that's all they remember.
They do not look at the process it takes to be an elite program. Passionate fans. Money from alumni. An AD dedicated to winning. Support of the faculty/staff. Recruiting potential.
A&M has all of those. What we needed was the coach. Sherman appears to be that guy. He took his lumps in 08 & 09 while redshirtung and building the team inside out.
Sadly, unless we get some JuCos for our DL in 2012 we will have a down year in 2012 and the bozos will scream from the rooftops that A&M will forever suck
ETA: I'm super pumped as a Cajun about the LSU rivalry. I foresee some Top 10 clashes in the future that will be electric at Death Valley and Kyle Field
They do not look at the process it takes to be an elite program. Passionate fans. Money from alumni. An AD dedicated to winning. Support of the faculty/staff. Recruiting potential.
A&M has all of those. What we needed was the coach. Sherman appears to be that guy. He took his lumps in 08 & 09 while redshirtung and building the team inside out.
Sadly, unless we get some JuCos for our DL in 2012 we will have a down year in 2012 and the bozos will scream from the rooftops that A&M will forever suck
ETA: I'm super pumped as a Cajun about the LSU rivalry. I foresee some Top 10 clashes in the future that will be electric at Death Valley and Kyle Field
This post was edited on 9/22/11 at 9:43 pm
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:43 pm to Bob Ag
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The same could be said for Florida before the 90s
That's what I was saying as well...don't know how many people realize UF had ZERO, nada, zilch SEC titles prior to that guy from Duke being hired.
What was FSU before Bowden? Miami before the 1980s? And it works both ways...A&M had a solid program going before the Fran hire set them back. Ask Texas how things were going during the David McWilliams era and most of the Mackovic era.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:48 pm to Monticello
Two words:
Sleeping.
Giant.
Sleeping.
Giant.
Posted on 9/22/11 at 9:54 pm to TheSandman
Most people forget about the Aggies of the late 80's and 90's, granted they took some lumps from the Ncaa but Top Ten was very common. This weekend will go a long way to prove they're relevant again.
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