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re: Let's lay out the scenarios for the Lonhorns, assuming A&M leaves...

Posted on 8/30/11 at 2:58 pm to
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 2:58 pm to
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Scott has a dream of a 16-team superconference; if he finds a way to make LHN work and keep conference stability he should run for POTUS.


Texas, Tech, Ou & Okie State would make the PAC16 a pretty solid conference. No way Scott would turn this down. He would find a way to make the LN work.

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Not too sold on the B1G making a run for Texas, though


The Big 10 and Texas were talking hot & heavy last summer. The Big 10 told Texas it was interested and Texas said it was also interested but had a "Tech problem". Now that the aggies have broken the bonds of the Texas cluster, Texas no longer has a "Tech Problem" and could go to the Big 10.

Tech Problem

Posted by WoodlandsAg07
Where Our Stadiums Drop the Top, TX
Member since Aug 2011
288 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:00 pm to
I would love to see the whorns in the B1G. Nothing like that November matchup in the rust belt ice vs Purdue or Minnesota to get Texas recruits "pretty hot and heavy", as our friend here would say.
This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 3:01 pm
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:09 pm to
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I would love to see the whorns in the B1G. Nothing like that November matchup in the rust belt ice vs Purdue or Minnesota to get Texas recruits "pretty hot and heavy", as our friend here would say.


Texas in the Big 10 would be incredible. Texas vs Ohio State or Wiscy or Iowa or Michigan or Penn State or ND (who would go Big 10 if Texas did) would be awesome and you know it. The weather doesn't really get bad until December. Especially since I live within easy driving distance to Penn State, I would love to see this happen. Texas to the Big 10 would be my ideal end game for all of this.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:09 pm to
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Texas, Tech, Ou & Okie State would make the PAC16 a pretty solid conference. No way Scott would turn this down. He would find a way to make the LN work.


This is the most likely scenario IF Scott can somehow work through the Longhorn Network issue. PAC-16 adds one of college football's most storied programs (OU), one of its most financially-solid (Texas) and two above-average programs (though both have to run gimmick offenses to do it).

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Now that the aggies have broken the bonds of the Texas cluster, Texas no longer has a "Tech Problem"


OK now you're making no sense. "Tech Problem" means that Texas would have had to bring Texas Tech (a non-AAU member) into a conference which prides itself on all its members being in the AAU. (Which would NOT have been a problem if Texas could have brought A&M, a fellow AAU member.)

How in the world does A&M leaving solve a "Tech Problem"? Tech is STILL in the Big 12-2-1 (tossing D-cell-battery-filled tortillas appears not to be grounds for conference expulsion); if they were a "problem" before, they're still a "problem" now.
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:10 pm to
any chance for Texas to follow TCU to the BEast? Seems like they're the only major conference that might acquiesce to the LHN...

and I haven't seen a mention of them in this thread.. outside of saying that TCU is already a member.
This post was edited on 8/30/11 at 3:11 pm
Posted by LSUisjustOK
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:11 pm to
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How in the world does A&M leaving solve a "Tech Problem"?


It sets a precedent. Texas schools can now leave the Big 12 for their own interests.
Posted by WoodlandsAg07
Where Our Stadiums Drop the Top, TX
Member since Aug 2011
288 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:13 pm to
The only games there that would really get me excited if it were my team are Ohio State and Michigan. ND is completely hypothetical. If games against Iowa and Wisconsin get you excited as a college football fan, then that shows the fundamental difference between fans of our schools. We get excited for games against LSU, Alabama, Auburn, Florida- southern schools with rabid fanbases that are fun to tailgate with.

But have fun with that 10:30 am kickoff on ESPN 2 in Iowa City.
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
20484 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 3:52 pm to
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How in the world does A&M leaving solve a "Tech Problem"?

It sets a precedent. Texas schools can now leave the Big 12 for their own interests.


There's no comparison between A&M (a flagship university with a huge viewer base in two top-10 media markets) and Tech (who's viewer base is generally limited to West Texas and the Panhandle).

If Texas could have moved last year without Tech (telling the politicians that Tech will be fine staying in an AQ conference with A&M) they would have. But they couldn't. How can they pull it off now with the other flagship moving on by itself?

Unless Texas can pawn Tech off on a PAC-12 package deal with OU and OSU, keeping them in an AQ conference, it's stuck with them whether they like it or not short of going indy.
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 4:00 pm to
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How in the world does A&M leaving solve a "Tech Problem"? Tech is STILL in the Big 12-2-1 (tossing D-cell-battery-filled tortillas appears not to be grounds for conference expulsion); if they were a "problem" before, they're still a "problem" now


I could be wrong, but if A&M can break away from Baylor and Tech (which I thought was highly unlikely due to politics) then I think Texas can as well.

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If games against Iowa and Wisconsin get you excited as a college football fan, then that shows the fundamental difference between fans of our schools.


Wiscy has a great team, big school and an incredible tailgate & game day environment. You wouldn't be excited for your team to play at Penn State?

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If Texas could have moved last year without Tech (telling the politicians that Tech will be fine staying in an AQ conference with A&M) they would have. But they couldn't. How can they pull it off now with the other flagship moving on by itself? Unless Texas can pawn Tech off on a PAC-12 package deal with OU and OSU, keeping them in an AQ conference, it's stuck with them whether they like it or not short of going indy.


I guess we just disagree. To me, if the politicians let A&M break away from Tech, they have to let Texas do the same.
Posted by WoodlandsAg07
Where Our Stadiums Drop the Top, TX
Member since Aug 2011
288 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 4:06 pm to
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Wiscy has a great team, big school and an incredible tailgate & game day environment


So do nearly all the SEC schools. Even schools like Ole Miss that might be down right now have an amazing gameday environment. Also, I don't think our fan base has much in common with people from Wisconsin. Yours might though.

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You wouldn't be excited for your team to play at Penn State?


I would be much more excited for games at about 8 of the SEC schools. It's also very far away from the majority of our fanbase (as it is with yours as well) and once again, I don't think our fanbase has much in common with a bunch of people from Pennsylvania. Yours probably does though, that was my point with the difference between the fanbases.
Posted by ULMaggie
Member since Jun 2010
133 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 4:17 pm to
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Texas vs Ohio State or Wiscy or Iowa or Michigan or Penn State or ND (who would go Big 10 if Texas did) would be awesome and you know it.


Yeah, I would go absolutely apeshit over Texas/Iowa.
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 8/30/11 at 4:49 pm to
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I don't think Notre Dame has fallen into anonymity. shite, dude, they have their own national tv network for home games.


you are right on. all notre dame needs is a resurgence in their team and they will be national darlings again. the university of texas, however, ain't notre dame. they simply do not have national appeal. if they go independent, they are going to find that out. other than alumni, most people don't give a shite about them (probably true about every other team except notre dame also). i'm not trashing them, it's reality. yes, some people hate notre dame and are very vocal about it, but many, many, many folks, even non-catholics know they were the poster child for college football and can be it again. and then, of course, there are the millions and millions of catholics in every state of the union that would be happy with cheering for their university AND notre dame.
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