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If SEC has 13 in 2012
Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:59 am
Posted on 10/6/11 at 11:59 am
Do they really need to join a division? We could keep 6 in the east, 6 in the west, and aTm could play 4 teams in each division. Then take the top 2 out of the east winner, the west winner and aTm to play in the championship game. Or, if we really want to be dicks, just say that aTm isn't eligible for the championship game for a year or 2.
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Posted on 10/6/11 at 12:00 pm to CubsFanBudMan
Or just kick them back to the curb
Posted on 10/6/11 at 12:18 pm to CubsFanBudMan
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say that aTm isn't eligible for the championship game for a year or 2.
If they are in the conference they should not be excluded. If we stay at 13, I think they will have A&M play 4 and 4; they will be in the west; and the standings will be the standings.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 1:27 pm to Hubbhogg
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Or just kick them back to the curb
I'm all for this
Posted on 10/6/11 at 1:35 pm to Indiana Tiger
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If they are in the conference they should not be excluded. If we stay at 13, I think they will have A&M play 4 and 4; they will be in the west; and the standings will be the standings.
There would be no championship game though right? I thought I read somewhere that you MUST have even divisions for a championship game.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 1:40 pm to CNB
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There would be no championship game though right? I thought I read somewhere that you MUST have even divisions for a championship game.
There would be a championship game. Go look at the MAC.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 1:45 pm to Indiana Tiger
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There would be a championship game. Go look at the MAC.
Not arguing with you on this, as I have no clue on this matter. But, would it not have anything to do with the MAC not being an AQ? Or is there no stipulation on that?
Posted on 10/6/11 at 1:48 pm to CNB
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is there no stipulation on that?
Not that I'm aware of and I can't imagine why there ever would have been one conceived.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 1:48 pm to Indiana Tiger
The MAC received a special wavier from the NCAA to have a championship game with uneven divisions. CNB, is right the NCAA states they must be even. The SEC would have to get that same wavier from the NCAA. Just and FYI the MAC is moving to 14 teams, so that tells you how well 13 works.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 1:49 pm to CubsFanBudMan
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Do they really need to join a division? We could keep 6 in the east, 6 in the west, and aTm could play 4 teams in each division.
Really good idea, but you have to include them in the SEC CG if they qualify, which I doubt they will, but I guess you would need a clause saying they would/could be West/East rep if their record is better than any member in the West or East champion.
ETA - BUT the SEC could really stick it to em with the schedule to ensure it wouldn't happen. Imagine A&M playing:
LSU
Bama
Arky
Miss St
Florida
Georgia
South Carolina
Tenn
This post was edited on 10/6/11 at 1:52 pm
Posted on 10/6/11 at 1:51 pm to TopWaterTiger
so the 8 schools they play... how do you decide that? replace a non conference game or a conference game? then what happens with tiebreakers in conference.. and then if Aggy somehow goes 7-1 or 8-0 in conference.. what then?
13 team conference is a logistical nightmare.
13 team conference is a logistical nightmare.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 1:52 pm to Randyh3253
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The MAC received a special wavier from the NCAA to have a championship game with uneven divisions. CNB, is right the NCAA states they must be even. The SEC would have to get that same wavier from the NCAA. Just and FYI the MAC is moving to 14 teams, so that tells you how well 13 works.
The SEC will get a waiver. It's just a guess, but I think the issue is that the regs state that a div must play a round robin and that is impossible with 13 teams if everyone is going to play the same number of games.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:22 pm to baytiger
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so the 8 schools they play... how do you decide that? replace a non conference game or a conference game? then what happens with tiebreakers in conference.. and then if Aggy somehow goes 7-1 or 8-0 in conference.. what then?
Replace a conference game. The teams that play aTm would place the 5 in their division, 2 from the other division and aTm. If they go 8-0 or 7-1, then they would get into the SECCG against the division winner with the best record. If they go 4-4 or 3-5, then the east would play the west like usual. Use the tie breakers that are in place. head to head, then record among common SEC opponents on down to highest ranked in BCS standings.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:28 pm to CubsFanBudMan
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Replace a conference game. The teams that play aTm would place the 5 in their division, 2 from the other division and aTm. If they go 8-0 or 7-1, then they would get into the SECCG against the division winner with the best record. If they go 4-4 or 3-5, then the east would play the west like usual. Use the tie breakers that are in place. head to head, then record among common SEC opponents on down to highest ranked in BCS standings.
eta: misread you
so you think the 7-1 division winner that gets left out would be ok with this?
This post was edited on 10/6/11 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 10/6/11 at 2:46 pm to baytiger
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13 team conference is a logistical nightmare.
13 is a mess because it ripples through everybody's schedule. If we would add 2 teams, A&M and MO, you probably can put all the short term scheduling rearranging on their backs. For example, if one team is in the east and the other is in the west, all you would have to do is pick 8 (7 if they play each other) x div games spread across the season and voila you have conference schedule. Only MO and A&M would, if needed, have to modify their OOC schedule.
When you only add one, every sched gets impacted. You can't just pick OOC games to come up with a single opponent (unless you are adding another conf game) and expect that to work. Eventually you have to cancel an existing game. So you pick the LSU/FL game. A&M can play one or the other, but not both at the same time, so whoever you don't play has to change their schedule.
The problem with adding a game and just changing the OOC schedules, is that the OOC games may not be spread out enough across the season to give you 8 games, so that impacts.
So yes, 13 is a logistical nightmare.
Posted on 10/6/11 at 4:08 pm to CubsFanBudMan
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Or, if we really want to be dicks, just say that aTm isn't eligible for the championship game for a year or 2.
As if they'll even qualify for Atlanta within 2 years.
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