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re: I don't think the Pac-12 would take OU without Texas
Posted on 9/15/11 at 10:11 am to TDawg1313
Posted on 9/15/11 at 10:11 am to TDawg1313
I think OP from You-Dub in Seattle is mistaken in his thinking.
I agree with these statements by other commenters:
I agree with these statements by other commenters:
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Those two (CU & UU) always wanted to be a part of the Pac and it made sense culturally and geograhically...it was a natural addition and not just for expansion purposes.
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Adding those 2 teams (CU & UU) gave them 12 teams which meant championship game, and new TV contract. The new TV deal ($3 billion) tripled the current deal. They added two new markets (both in an earlier time zone)
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Everybody is happy at twelve teams but no one wants to get left out in the cold when the superconferences take shape. So, yeah, the Pac 12 will expand and yeah, they will take OU and OSU with or WITHOUT Texas. Why am I so certain?
Well, if the Pac 12 has to expand, what are the first legitimate expansion targets? What school between California and Oklahoma not already in the Pac 12 is a legitimate expansion target and worthy of possible Pac 12 membership? That's right, there are none and OU and OSU are just about the ONLY candidates. So, when it comes down to it the Pac 12 MUST HAVE OU and OSU if it is going to legitimately expand. So, it will take them at the first opportunity with or without Texas.
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Posted on 9/15/11 at 10:11 am to Dr Drunkenstein
Getting Texas would be an extremely nice get for the Pac 12. But with or without Texas, they will take OU.
Posted on 9/15/11 at 7:09 pm to Hawgon
I am hearing Texas is in discussion with the ACC (and probably everybody else). They must have somebody that lets them keep their network. Since ESPN is already evolved with the ACC it does seem somewhat logical. I think Oklahoma and Oklahoma St. are going to the Pac 12 probably along with BYU.
Who will be the 16th. team? Texas Tech?
Who will be the 16th. team? Texas Tech?
Posted on 9/16/11 at 8:05 am to West Central Tiger
I don't see BYU as the 15th team because of the prevailing view that certain PAC-12 member presidents have an anti-religious bias.
If Texas comes then Tech is most likely in as well. Tech may come in with the OU/OSU pairing (notice how Tech hasn't been squawking too much during this whole mess). Nevada (Reno) is a possibility. Boise State appears to have little chance, though they're definitely better than some of the dogs in that conference (Washington State).
If Texas comes then Tech is most likely in as well. Tech may come in with the OU/OSU pairing (notice how Tech hasn't been squawking too much during this whole mess). Nevada (Reno) is a possibility. Boise State appears to have little chance, though they're definitely better than some of the dogs in that conference (Washington State).
Posted on 9/16/11 at 8:45 am to Hawgon
quote:Yes it would...any conference getting Texas would be great for that conference. I just don't think it is good for Texas long term. I will stand by my opinion that Texas joining a conference far outside its region is not good for them. They will lose some identity and I think the SEC will benefit.
Getting Texas would be an extremely nice get for the Pac 12.
Posted on 9/16/11 at 9:49 am to TDawg1313
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I don't think the Pac-12 would take OU without Texas
Yes, they will.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:23 pm to TDawg1313
I really think this is what ended up happening. They went to plan B after Texas declined (Mizzou and Kansas/Texas Tech), but Mizzou chose the SEC.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:37 pm to TDawg1313
I don't know about that. The conference is happy with 12 teams so not sure what the mizzous and kansas would be added for. UT is a school they had to at least consider but unfortunately it didn't work out. I doubt they were ever really looking at these other schools.
Posted on 9/20/11 at 11:42 pm to TDawg1313
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I really think this is what ended up happening. They went to plan B after Texas declined (Mizzou and Kansas/Texas Tech), but Mizzou chose the SEC.
Well that's completely different from what's coming out.
Texas wouldn't budge on being equals in the conference. So the Pac 12 passed. The presidents had a concensus meeting to end the expansion talk as they didn't want to just add schools for the sake of adding...bring in OU and Okie State. Word is they told OU - no.
Just like last year - they weren't going to expand without a huge incentive. They already got their TV contract without going to 16 schools and they weren't going to add OU without Texas and weren't going to add Texas unless they agreed to the terms of the collective revenue sharing.
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