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re: I believe West Virginia should be Team No. 14
Posted on 9/27/11 at 1:06 pm to faxis
Posted on 9/27/11 at 1:06 pm to faxis
save it, 95% of your fans had a blast up here getting invited for moonshine, food and a good tailgating time. Its really only people like you who didnt even go and hear about the 1 incident in the crowd of 80,000+ that are saying this
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Posted on 9/27/11 at 1:09 pm to busey
The first few years we would be at that level but once we build our depth we would become much better than UK and their mediocre friends
Posted on 9/27/11 at 1:13 pm to faxis
quote:Tolerant guy. Violence with words is still violence.
I don't want any SEC team to ever have to play amongst those toothless methed out feral white trash ever again.
Posted on 9/27/11 at 1:13 pm to NorthernWV
Yeah, the one time we go up there. Know how many times someone got attacked and almost killed by a pack of SEC fans in front of a bunch of other SEC fans who did nothing to stop it in the history of the SEC?
Zero.
Sorry, we know all about getting crazy on each other but there's limits. We all have bad fans but our worst are nothing like your worst.
Had something like that happened to a visiting fan at LSU the ones doing it would have been stomped down by other LSU fans and held till the cops got there.
frick West Virginia.
Zero.
Sorry, we know all about getting crazy on each other but there's limits. We all have bad fans but our worst are nothing like your worst.
Had something like that happened to a visiting fan at LSU the ones doing it would have been stomped down by other LSU fans and held till the cops got there.
frick West Virginia.
Posted on 9/27/11 at 1:22 pm to StraightCashHomey21
quote:
The first few years we would be at that level but once we build our depth we would become much better than UK and their mediocre friends
Your classes you get now are the same as Kentucky's. In fact, WVU is at even more of a recruiting disadvantage than Kentucky. You also have to consider your first few seasons would be losing seasons and your recruiting grounds would also be open for other teams to poach recruits that would have normally gone to WVU. WVU would be a 6 win team in the SEC. There is simply no logical reason that WVU would or could be better than anyone but Vandy on a regular basis.
This post was edited on 9/27/11 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 9/27/11 at 1:32 pm to busey
quote:
WVU would be a 6 win team in the SEC
You are being generous Busey. I don't see them doing that well.
Posted on 9/27/11 at 2:09 pm to Rouge
quote:
they have been good for the last 8 seasons in arguably the weakest BCS conference. i will give you that. they have one conference championship from 1970-2000
We were independent from 1967 up until 1991. Do some research please.
We have been in two conferences. Southern Conference from 1950 to 1967 and the Big East 1991 to present.
17 years in the Southern Conference and had 8 conference championships.
20 years in the big east and have 6 conference championships.
14 conference championships in 37 years isnt that shabby.
Posted on 9/27/11 at 2:23 pm to Dilrod
you are correct. my apologies
a little more research shows me that WVU has finished in the top 15 of the AP poll 5 times since the poll began in 1935
here are some of those records when you won the conference
7-4
6-4
3-5-2
5-4-1
4-5-1
6-4
I wouldn't brag about such things
a little more research shows me that WVU has finished in the top 15 of the AP poll 5 times since the poll began in 1935
quote:
17 years in the Southern Conference and had 8 conference championships.
here are some of those records when you won the conference
7-4
6-4
3-5-2
5-4-1
4-5-1
6-4
I wouldn't brag about such things
quote:and you had 3 losses for 3 of those championship seasons
20 years in the big east and have 6 conference championships
Posted on 9/27/11 at 2:24 pm to Dilrod
It's not too shabby, but do you really believe that Kentucky, Ole Miss, and State wouldn't have been able to do the same or better?
Posted on 9/27/11 at 2:26 pm to busey
quote:
WVU would be a 6 win team in the SEC.
Interesting.
Also interesting...
Through season end 2010, Kentucky has a 162-364-20 record in SEC play. That's a winning pct of 31.5%.
West Virginia has played less than 50 games against SEC teams but they are 22-20-2 or a win pct of 52%.
Granted, West Virginia is 8-11-1 versus Kentucky. WVU won 4 of the last 6 meetings and they haven't played since 1983.
I think WVU would finish ahead of Kentucky in most years. You're really deluded if you think that most years KY is better than or equal to WVU.
Posted on 9/27/11 at 2:26 pm to Tigersomething
if you had gone to the game this weekend, you would not feel WVU and its fans should be #14. Going there once was interesting I guess, but I hope we never play there again
However, the winning argument is that, relatively speaking, WVU barely delivers any cable ready tv households on their own. This will matter A LOT when the SEC eventually creates its own cable tv network, which is what this expansion is almost completely motivated by. Everything else aside, why take WVU when you can add a Mizzou/VT/NCST that delivers a state population 3-5x larger? All about the $$$, as usual
However, the winning argument is that, relatively speaking, WVU barely delivers any cable ready tv households on their own. This will matter A LOT when the SEC eventually creates its own cable tv network, which is what this expansion is almost completely motivated by. Everything else aside, why take WVU when you can add a Mizzou/VT/NCST that delivers a state population 3-5x larger? All about the $$$, as usual
Posted on 9/27/11 at 2:28 pm to BrerTiger
I'm not saying they're not currently a better team/program. I'm saying had Kentucky been in the Big East all those years, the results would be the same as WVU's or better. Unfortunately losing is a vicious cycle that is hard to break psychologically. Losing tends to breed losing. Winning breeds winning.
Posted on 9/27/11 at 2:29 pm to NorthernWV
quote:
95% of your fans had a blast up here getting invited for moonshine, food and a good tailgating time. Its really only people like you who didnt even go and hear about the 1 incident in the crowd of 80,000+ that are saying this
wish i would have found them, I walked around all day and was just told to FU and F off
Posted on 9/27/11 at 2:44 pm to Feed Me Popeyes
I don't understand why average fans are pushing so hard for the money angle. WVU is better than Missouri or NC State, but that's what we'd get if it were up to your market size numbers. Answer me this though, why do Missouri and NCS have fairly smallish stadiums and historically weak programs even with all those "large market fans" just clamoring to pay to watch these two schools play.
I don't care if Charlotte has 4 million people....those people don't give a Damn about NC State football, same with Missouri (StL & KC).
The Big East is about to fall apart and has huge markets "in its footprint" , people don't care like they do here.
Rouge, I wish you would bring the facts to the table since you have been the one making definitive statements.
Find ratings for NC State and Missouri games, and the like.
I don't care if Charlotte has 4 million people....those people don't give a Damn about NC State football, same with Missouri (StL & KC).
The Big East is about to fall apart and has huge markets "in its footprint" , people don't care like they do here.
Rouge, I wish you would bring the facts to the table since you have been the one making definitive statements.
Find ratings for NC State and Missouri games, and the like.
Posted on 9/27/11 at 2:50 pm to bgtiger
quote:
I don't understand why average fans are pushing so hard for the money angle. WVU is better than Missouri or NC State, but that's what we'd get if it were up to your market size numbers. Answer me this though, why do Missouri and NCS have fairly smallish stadiums and historically weak programs even with all those "large market fans" just clamoring to pay to watch these two schools play.
I don't care if Charlotte has 4 million people....those people don't give a Damn about NC State football, same with Missouri (StL & KC).
But the people in Missouri love GOOD college football. In southern Missouri you'll find a lot of Arkansas fans and OU fans, you even find OU merchandise and we're 3hrs from Norman. People in Missouri would watch SEC football no matter who's playing if Mizzou get invited into the conference. And with the Chiefs and Rams sucking that'll even draw more fans into SEC/Mizzou football.
Posted on 9/27/11 at 2:50 pm to bgtiger
quote:
Find ratings for NC State and Missouri games, and the like.
quote:LINK
What do Crimson Tide, Badgers, Buckeyes, and Wolverines all have in common? According to a new national report issued from The Media Audit, each is a team belonging to some of the top college football towns in America. According to The Media Audit, 77.1% of adults in Birmingham, Alabama regularly follow college football on TV or radio. As a result, Birmingham ranks as the top metro market among college football fans. Madison, Wisconsin, home of the University of Wisconsin's Badgers, ranks second in the national poll, with 74.1% of the metro area's adults who regularly follow college football, followed by Columbus Ohio (73.5%), Little Rock, Arkansas (71.9%), and Ann Arbor, Michigan (71.5%). Among all U.S. adults, 47.4% regularly follow college football, a figure that represents more than 68 million fans across The Media Audit's 80 measured markets. Collegiate football fans make ideal targets for many advertisers, including automotive, home improvement, and travel and leisure. According to the same study, 22.3% of college football fans are homeowners earning more than $100,000 in annual household income, and 26.5% have liquid assets in excess of $100,000. As a result, these fans can afford luxury automobiles and frequently travel. Among these same fans, they are 35% more likely than the general population to be planning the purchase of an automobile priced over $30,000 and 16% more likely to already own a luxury vehicle such as a BMW, Mercedes Benz, Lexus, Infiniti, Jaguar, or Porsche. Furthermore, college football fans are 18% more likely to be planning a cruise in the next two years, and 42% more likely to be frequent domestic air travelers. Rounding out the top ten college football markets are Toledo, Ohio (71.3% regularly follow college football on TV or radio), followed by Omaha, Nebraska (70.7%), Jacksonville, Florida (68.9%), Boise, Idaho (68.8%), and Columbia-Jefferson City, Missouri (68.1%), home of the University of Missouri Tigers.
Raleigh/Durham/Fayetteville — NC State, North Carolina, Duke - 25th ranked CF market according to Wiki LINK
Of course, the wiki source lists Mizzou's at 21st
This post was edited on 9/27/11 at 2:54 pm
Posted on 9/27/11 at 2:56 pm to manwich
I like that, except that didn't say St Louis or KC.
BUT, that augments my point. The raw population numbers don't really mean ratings for every market.
BUT, that augments my point. The raw population numbers don't really mean ratings for every market.
Posted on 9/27/11 at 2:57 pm to bgtiger
It isn't about ratings per se, it's about the number of cable-ready tv households you can sell your cable tv network to in a given state. Cable networks make the majority of their money from subscription fees, not ratings. Enough demand will exist in MO, NC, or VA to sell an SEC network to every market in the state...thus, lots more $$$ coming back to the SEC member schools. That's where WV comes up way short
fwiw, I don't care about the money, but I suspect Mike Slive cares a lot
fwiw, I don't care about the money, but I suspect Mike Slive cares a lot
Posted on 9/27/11 at 2:59 pm to manwich
Raleigh Durham Fayetteville has like 12 football playing colleges in the area.... how much of that is NC State driven?
Posted on 9/27/11 at 3:03 pm to bgtiger
It doesn't matter.
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