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re: Congrats to the Aggies - official Dr D eats crow thread

Posted on 8/12/11 at 2:40 pm to
Posted by Ball Gravy
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2008
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Posted on 8/12/11 at 2:40 pm to
Yeah, I know Buddy is the founder of HillCo, but they have been contracted by UT in this matter.

UH has an in, and UH is pounding the hell out of Austin and Waco right now with this matter.

A&M has all the cover in the world in terms of mud slinging, especially after Beebe's comments today.

The committee wouldn't be able to do anything physically from stopping A&M in 2011.
Posted by Ball Gravy
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2008
2985 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 2:44 pm to
Oh and Dr. D... It was UT/Baylor that threatened to sue A&M/Slive over tortious acts in regards to joining the SEC.

A&M just responded in kind and said f you.

In the end all, I just think its a bluff by Texas/Baylor, but I certainly think (now) that A&M and Texas won't be playing anytime soon (after the 2011 season)... which both you and I agree is a good thing.
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 2:54 pm to
I had heard that there was a ton of bad blood between UT and Buddy Jones because of his role in killing the Pac 16 so why would UT hire him. Doesn't it make more sense that, as a Baylor regent, he is doing what he is doing to help out Baylor?

A lot of aggies who have been beating the "Texas want to be an independent" drum are now saying Texas hired a lobbying firm owned by a guy they hate and who has a history of working against the interests of Texas so that they can save the Big 12.

Also, why would Texas let Beebe tell A&M to f**k off if the Horns wanted to save the conference?
Posted by Ball Gravy
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2008
2985 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 2:58 pm to
You make a very valid argument. I'm as confused from those reports as you are, but I'm passing along what I was given.

Maybe UT wants a new conference watered down where UH will whim to whatever Texas says? Pure conjecture on my part.
Posted by TejasHorn
High Plains Driftin'
Member since Mar 2007
11587 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 3:01 pm to
It's hard to fathom UT and a&m not playing, but seems to be some really bad political blood now..

If FSU joins, I bet they continue to play Miami.
Posted by rollthatback
Member since Jun 2008
3065 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 3:01 pm to
I'm going to be so fricking pissed if the big 12 just adds houston and moves along like its all good.
This post was edited on 8/12/11 at 3:02 pm
Posted by Ball Gravy
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2008
2985 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 3:06 pm to
And here's your head shot....

A&M moved their BOR meeting from 8/22 to Monday.

SEC Presidents meet Sunday to approve. A&M will approve on Monday.

Oops on that Tuesday political meeting...

A&M just said frick you Dan Branch.
Posted by GerryDiNardo
Bringing Back The Magic!
Member since Mar 2004
5774 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 3:07 pm to
Now people are saying A&M has pushed up the BOR meeting to Monday (have to give 72 hours notice) in order to make the Higher Ed meeting irrelevant.

SEC presidents meeting sunday with A&M announcing Monday after making it official at the BOR meeting.
Posted by DucksflyinPAC
Portland, Oregon
Member since Mar 2011
1872 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 3:12 pm to
TO the OP and other Texas fans. All I have to say is what is going down with TAMU leaving to the SEC is only the result of usual U of Texas greed! It was the mighty greed of Texas that caused this. It was the mighty greed of Texas that caused Nebraska to leave and the Big 12 to get shaken up last year. And your Texas greed will backfire in your face as no major Conference will ever so much as desire a fingernail of you now. And I will laugh my arse off. Texas- you deserved what you are now going to get- being forced independent. And you Texas fans wonder why no one likes Texas except your own fans.

And I can speak for the PAC when I say there is no way in Hell the PAC wants you now. We did before, but that was without your desired longhorn Network. You are going to be forced to go Indy and you will be playing the Army and Navy's all year and left out in the wind from all the rest of CF, and the whole county will be laughing their asses off.

Texas- you caused this, and now you are going to get what you royally deserve where no one wants to be in the same room to play with you!
Posted by Zamoro10
Member since Jul 2008
14743 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 3:15 pm to
quote:

Texas- you caused this, and now you are going to get what you royally deserve


Which unfortunately, will be a lot of money.

Texas isn't BYU.
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 3:19 pm to
quote:

You make a very valid argument. I'm as confused from those reports as you are, but I'm passing along what I was given.


The weird part is that, just a fee days ago, aggies were going on and on about how the LHN contract PROVED Texas wanted to be independent.....and no Texas has hired a Lobbying firm owned by a Baylor regent that they hate to save the Big 12?!? It doesn't make sense.

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And here's your head shot.... A&M moved their BOR meeting from 8/22 to Monday. SEC Presidents meet Sunday to approve. A&M will approve on Monday. Oops on that Tuesday political meeting... A&M just said frick you Dan Branch.


This is great theatre, no doubt, but it makes A&M look a little scared, like they are scrambling to do this to beat the politicians to the punch. This may REALLY piss off some heavyweight politicians.

quote:

All I have to say is what is going down with TAMU leaving to the SEC is only the result of usual U of Texas greed! It was the mighty greed of Texas that caused this.


You are saying Oregon would have turned down an ESPN offer for $300 million for their own network?

quote:

And I can speak for the PAC when I say there is no way in Hell the PAC wants you now


Well, I guess that is a done deal then.

Posted by RedHawk
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2007
9532 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 3:22 pm to
quote:

You are saying Oregon would have turned down an ESPN offer for $300 million for their own network?


Possibly, if it meant no network for the conference.
Posted by Ball Gravy
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2008
2985 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 3:22 pm to
Dr. D... FWIW, I've never once contended that the LHN was what pushed me over. It was the lies from Dodds about the content.

I'm an unapologetic capitalist like Dodds. If he would have been up front about the number of conf games and UIL material, it wouldn't have pushed some of these schools to look elsewhere.

Alas, you and I both got our wish... so, good luck in 2012. You can still go frick yourself in the 2011 season.
This post was edited on 8/12/11 at 3:23 pm
Posted by Dr Drunkenstein
Washington DC
Member since May 2009
2918 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 3:25 pm to
I think this game of 'beat the clock' to scoot around the legislative oversight by moving up the meeting will have some repercussions. We'll see.....
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15597 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 3:25 pm to
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You are going to be forced to go Indy


Naaa, I don't think that will happen. They could prop up the Big12 if they wanted to. Some little sister of the poor would be glad to take A&M's cut (or less).


Now, they could CHOOSE to go independent, but that just doesn't make a whole lot of sense to me. Too many other players involved.
This post was edited on 8/12/11 at 3:28 pm
Posted by JPLSU1981
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
28326 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 3:26 pm to
so is A&M's monday BOR meeting confirmed?
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15597 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

This may REALLY piss off some heavyweight politicians.


Is the Governor not considered a heavyweight?
Posted by Ball Gravy
Houston, TX
Member since Aug 2008
2985 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 3:26 pm to
I don't think its as simple as you make it... Decisions like that aren't made on a whim... Aggie lawyers have A LOT in their back pocket and will be contending that they will not pay full exit fees.

Looks like mediation or law suit ahead against Beebe and Big 12 for failing to honor fiduciary duties to Big 12 members.
Posted by DucksflyinPAC
Portland, Oregon
Member since Mar 2011
1872 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 3:27 pm to
That is not true. Texas in the end will not get bank. Their Longhorn Network Contract will all be adjusted because they will be left out in the cold and without a Conference that wants their greed/bullying. Texas is not ND. ND is the only school that really can make Indy work because just about every Catholic follows ND and they have tradition equal to about none. Even then, ND is a joke now. Texas does not have near the national following ND has, not even close. And who would want to see Texas play the loose Army and Navy's each year. In the long run Texas will become irrelevant outside looking in at the 4-5 large power Conferences that control everything.

BTW, BYU is a little different. They have a national following because you have so many Mormons all across America. But even then, they too will be irrelevant outside a major power Conference. They already were in the MWC, but now going Indy will only make that 5 times worse.

And on can almost bank that Okie, Okie St. Texas Tech goes to the PAC 16. Man this is going to be so fun to watch the demise of Texas in a few years when all this shakes out.
Posted by DucksflyinPAC
Portland, Oregon
Member since Mar 2011
1872 posts
Posted on 8/12/11 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

You are saying Oregon would have turned down an ESPN offer for $300 million for their own network?

Oregon is the King of the PAC currently(for 2 years now)and we would never consider it because the only network or money we would consider would be for the whole Conference as a whole). And USC too. Even though we are king now, USC is USC. They easily could go Indy, but never would consider it. They have way more power and clout then Texas ever had but USC is not like Texas in that they do not bully their own Conference around. So no, to answer your question. Neither UO, or USC, or any other PAC team would pull a Texas and get greedy and try to bully the rest around. And same with any Big 10 school, or the SEC schools, or ACC schools, or Big East. Sorry, but no one is like Texas. What Texas is going to receive from their greed and bullying their Conference mates is truly well deserved!
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