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At 14 teams will we definitely have a 9th conference game ?.... nm

Posted on 10/7/11 at 4:43 pm
Posted by liberty valance
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Posted on 10/7/11 at 4:43 pm
nm
Posted by CNB
Columbia, SC
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 10/7/11 at 4:45 pm to
We don't usually have "nm" posts around here.
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/7/11 at 4:48 pm to
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We don't usually have "nm" posts around here.

We usually don't get a poster who knows how to write a title.
Posted by BayouBengals03
lsu14always
Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 10/7/11 at 4:48 pm to
I think so.

6 games in your division, 3 out of division (with 1 permanent opponent).

Right now, you play every team out of your division at home on a 5-year rotation. I guess that will change to a 6-year rotation now.
Posted by Tigerntx
NOLA
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 10/7/11 at 4:49 pm to
Sounds like the talk is to drop the rivalry game, so we stay at 8. Don't like it, but "times they are ah changin".
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/7/11 at 4:49 pm to
Definitely? Not yet, but it's needed. And they need to drop the permanent x div games.
Posted by molsusports
Member since Jul 2004
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Posted on 10/7/11 at 4:58 pm to
14 teams in a conference leaves you choosing between shitty options.

option 1: 8 conference games, 6 within division, 1 fixed, 1 rotating opponent
option 2: 8 conference games, 6 within division, 2 rotating
option 3: 9 conference games, 6 within division, 1 fixed, 2 rotating
option 4: 9 conference games, 6 within division, 3 rotating

9 conference games is shitty because it makes for uneven numbers of home/away games in conference play (is unequal), costs teams home gates and potential wins to get bowl eligible, and reduces opportunities to play out of conference opponents

8 conference games is shitty because you rotate through you opposite division opponents pretty slowly and it ends up almost being two different conferences (instead of divisions) that share a conference championship game

14 teams in a conference kinda just sucks
Posted by Indiana Tiger
Member since Feb 2005
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Posted on 10/7/11 at 5:05 pm to
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14 teams in a conference kinda just sucks

12 is great, but once you added one team, you need to get to 16 and pods.
Posted by jcole4lsu
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
31821 posts
Posted on 10/7/11 at 7:35 pm to
absolutely not.
its hard enough to win all 8 plus the ccg as it is, the presidents recognize that.
we stay at 8 and have one less cross divisional game than present.
Posted by baytiger
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 10/7/11 at 7:42 pm to
I very much doubt we go to 9 game conference schedules, which is part of the reason we'll be at 16 soon
Posted by Tigerntx
NOLA
Member since Jul 2011
1309 posts
Posted on 10/7/11 at 8:21 pm to
Can't half step now - 16!
4 - 4 team divisions ("pod" is a PAC term).
3 division games, rotate 2 against other divisions.
Hate to loose the rivalry game & an OOC game, but that is reality of "super" conferences.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 8:46 am to
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option 1: 8 conference games, 6 within division, 1 fixed, 1 rotating opponent


Only lets us play the rotating East team twice every 12 years, but preserves UT-Bama game, which is apparently all that matters. And you are spot on with this...
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it ends up almost being two different conferences (instead of divisions) that share a conference championship game


Yep. Back to the old days of LSU playing in the same conference with Herschel Walker, Bo Jackson and Peyton Manning, but never getting to play against any of them.

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option 2: 8 conference games, 6 within division, 2 rotating


Much better because you would play everyone else in the conference twice every seven years, but it will never fly unless both Alabama and Auburn move to the East.

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option 3: 9 conference games, 6 within division, 1 fixed, 2 rotating


Probably the best compromise because it preserves Alabama-Tennessee, which is all that matters, but also allows rotating teams to play each other twice every six years. Nine SEC games will, as you point out, mess up non-conference scheduling. We'd never have a schedule like this year's again, for instance.

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option 4: 9 conference games, 6 within division, 3 rotating


The ideal situation for creating the best matchups the most frequently, if only that mattered in light of the entire conference's dependence on a certain two teams playing each other every year.

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14 teams in a conference kinda just sucks


Especially if a certain two of them ruin it for the other 12 by insisting that, as the conference throws tradition out the window for more money with expansion, we keep their precious tradition intact.

This post was edited on 10/8/11 at 8:51 am
Posted by tigerburningbright75
Lafayette, Louisiana
Member since May 2011
1146 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 8:53 am to
We're not going to a 9 game conference schedule. You do that and it will be impossible to win a national championship.
Posted by Nuts4LSU
Washington, DC
Member since Oct 2003
25468 posts
Posted on 10/8/11 at 9:44 am to
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We're not going to a 9 game conference schedule


I would not be surprised if you are right.

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You do that and it will be impossible to win a national championship


That's what we thought about the SECCG back in 1992, but it didn't turn out that way. Most SEC teams are now playing a decent BCS AQ conference team outside of conference play now, so substituting an SEC game for that wouldn't appreciably toughen the schedule. It would screw up non-conference scheduling, though.
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