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Posted on 8/28/11 at 9:59 pm to SunHog
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Hogville has a better discussion at the moment.
too easy
::softball::
Posted on 8/28/11 at 10:02 pm to Uncle Stu
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I'm going to need to see some sort of flight map and mileage charts backing up this notion
I checked American Airlines flights from DFW to XNA (NW Arkansas). To XNA 1 hour 5 minutes, return 1 hour 15 minutes. Unfortunately it won't let me post the link but I searched through the American Airlines website.
Posted on 8/28/11 at 10:05 pm to Quidam65
Our return will be in ticket sales and demand. We've constantly kept the fanbase showing up even over the last 15 years of painful play.
We sold out of season tickets last week because of all the SEC talk. Prices will go up, we will put in big money suites(already in the plans as $bill has discussed it).
LSU Vs A&M or Baylor Vs A&M. I know what game I'll spend $400+ to take my family to see....
We sold out of season tickets last week because of all the SEC talk. Prices will go up, we will put in big money suites(already in the plans as $bill has discussed it).
LSU Vs A&M or Baylor Vs A&M. I know what game I'll spend $400+ to take my family to see....
Posted on 8/28/11 at 10:07 pm to secfan123
20. Arkansas – $78.1 million; 22.0% growth (Not including the $6.5M of seat arrangements produced after the poll. (Puts us at #15)
27. Texas A&M – $71.8 million; 1.4% decline
Merchandise Sale for 2011 Quarter
(17.) University of Arkansas
(20.) Texas A&M University
AP-All Time Wins
18 Arkansas 393
20 Texas A&M 337
All-Time Series which is a laugher..
Arkansas 40-23-3 over TAMU
Major Bowl History
Arkansas has won the Fiesta, Orange, Cotton and Sugar Bowl.
TAMU has won the Sugar and Cotton bowl.
27. Texas A&M – $71.8 million; 1.4% decline
Merchandise Sale for 2011 Quarter
(17.) University of Arkansas
(20.) Texas A&M University
AP-All Time Wins
18 Arkansas 393
20 Texas A&M 337
All-Time Series which is a laugher..
Arkansas 40-23-3 over TAMU
Major Bowl History
Arkansas has won the Fiesta, Orange, Cotton and Sugar Bowl.
TAMU has won the Sugar and Cotton bowl.
Posted on 8/28/11 at 10:09 pm to SunHog
SunHog, don't you think your team might suffer because of the increased costs of air fuel that goes with more recruiting in Texas? I mean if you're recruiting (insert arbitrary number) guys outside of (insert arbitrary distance number) miles, all located in Texas, those guys will be right in our backyard! That could lead to a drastic increase in fuel costs, especially with a potential powderkeg in the Middle East! An absolute windfall for A&M!
Posted on 8/28/11 at 10:09 pm to Big Kat
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Sun, in the SWC days you played every conference road game in Texas. Now you will have one. The same game you already have in Dallas. I don't see A&M to the SEC improving Arkansas recruiting at all actually.
I see it helping A&M and LSU recruiting while hurting tu and OU slightly.
IIRC you are young and don't even remember us playing in the SWC. A&M joining the SEC will do nothing but help us in recruiting Texas. We are probably one of if not the biggest supporters of A&M getting in to the league.
We used to build our entire team around Texas kids. We won't get that kind of % anymore obviously because as you pointed out we will only have one actual game in Texas but you can't discount what an impact the media will have for our cause. Much like LSU, Arkansas has large alumni presence in both Dallas and Houston so you could forsee the local meeting start including info about Arkansas and LSU more often like they do now with OU.
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Perhaps, Arkansas can have some of those 5.7's that A&M, LSU, OU, and tu pass over
I don't know if you don't realize this but the kids we currently get out of Texas don't have A&M, Texas or OU offers. So yet again, whether you join or not it's not going to hurt us with the kids we are currently getting.
It will help us more than likely because of the increased television presence and those kids momma's in Dallas will be able to see their kids on TV every week now so Arkansas won't seem as far away anymore as it did when only the Big 12 games were on.
At the end of the day it's a win/win for Arknasas.
Posted on 8/28/11 at 10:12 pm to SunHog
Dude, you are clearly obsessed with A&M. In the end of the day I don't give a frick what you say. A&M is going to the SEC, life will be good. We will make more money. The city of College Station will benefit from traveling SEC fans that will go to games at Kyle and make use of hotels. Recruiting will improve. In the SWC you played all Texas schools. You already played us in Dallas for two years. Its not like you are getting blue chip recruits left and right from our state. You act as if suddenly A&M is going to stop recruiting Texas and LSU and your hilly billy school are suddenly going to take everyone!! Will Arkansas and LSU take Texas kids? Sure, no shite. We have the best talent in the country and not every Texas kid can go to A&M or Texas. There is plenty to choose from. Hell, Sherman these past two years has focused on Louisiana too. He thinks of it as an extension of East Texas.
Look at our recruiting class for 2012. ONE "ok" 9-4 season caused that. ONE. Add an 11 win season this year and using the SEC as a sales pitch, and recruiting will keep on an upward slope for quite a while.
Oh no travel costs! Dude, its Texas A&M not fricking Texas Tech. Its not a problem. I'm sure we are not sweating it
Look at our recruiting class for 2012. ONE "ok" 9-4 season caused that. ONE. Add an 11 win season this year and using the SEC as a sales pitch, and recruiting will keep on an upward slope for quite a while.
Oh no travel costs! Dude, its Texas A&M not fricking Texas Tech. Its not a problem. I'm sure we are not sweating it
Posted on 8/28/11 at 10:13 pm to TheCheshireHog
That is correct.
Posted on 8/28/11 at 10:15 pm to TheCheshireHog
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I don't know if you don't realize this but the kids we currently get out of Texas don't have A&M, Texas or OU offers
That's weird, some kids we currently get have Arkansas offers.
Posted on 8/28/11 at 10:17 pm to SunHog
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It will help us more than likely because of the increased television presence and those kids momma's in Dallas will be able to see their kids on TV every week now so Arkansas won't seem as far away anymore as it did when only the Big 12 games were on.
Or mama and pop can drive down to College Station and watch their kid play in person
Posted on 8/28/11 at 10:19 pm to Palooza11
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Palooza11
A&M move flies in face of reason
Dude, you are clearly obsessed with A&M. In the end of the day I don't give a frick what you say. A&M is going to the SEC, life will be good. We will make more money. The city of College Station will benefit from traveling SEC fans that will go to games at Kyle and make use of hotels. Recruiting will improve. In the SWC you played all Texas schools. You already played us in Dallas for two years. Its not like you are getting blue chip recruits left and right from our state. You act as if suddenly A&M is going to stop recruiting Texas and LSU and your hilly billy school are suddenly going to take everyone!! Will Arkansas and LSU take Texas kids? Sure, no shite. We have the best talent in the country and not every Texas kid can go to A&M or Texas. There is plenty to choose from. Hell, Sherman these past two years has focused on Louisiana too. He thinks of it as an extension of East Texas.
Look at our recruiting class for 2012. ONE "ok" 9-4 season caused that. ONE. Add an 11 win season this year and using the SEC as a sales pitch, and recruiting will keep on an upward slope for quite a while.
Oh no travel costs! Dude, its Texas A&M not fricking Texas Tech. Its not a problem. I'm sure we are not sweating it
Hey, Jackwagon.
I'm all for TAMU losing money to come over and help Arkansas in recruiting and give us more money because of the Texas market.
We already play TAMU in Dallas with a long contract, lol you think I don't want TAMU in the SEC, wrong.
I'm never worried about TAMU recruiting it hasn't helped y'all one bit against us or for 100 years.
Thank you.
$18.1 Million current SEC.
$22M next year for TAMU in Big12 share.
20% increase in the market for the SEC (with texas market) would net us $21.7M which is break even for TAMU and more for Arkansas, I love that.
We can all agree Texas can piss off that's about it.
Posted on 8/28/11 at 10:19 pm to WoodlandsAg07
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That's weird, some kids we currently get have Arkansas offers.
I said the kids "we" get don't have offers from you guys or Texas. We offer a ton in Texas but don't get the top tier guys. Knile Davis is the only highly rated guy we have gotten out of Texas in a long, long time and that was pretty much only because none of the top tier Big 12 schools wanted to take a risk on hims since he was hurt all through high school.
Posted on 8/28/11 at 10:20 pm to Palooza11
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Palooza11
A&M move flies in face of reason
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It will help us more than likely because of the increased television presence and those kids momma's in Dallas will be able to see their kids on TV every week now so Arkansas won't seem as far away anymore as it did when only the Big 12 games were on.
Or mama and pop can drive down to College Station and watch their kid play in person
You can only take 25 the rest of the 300 D-1 kids in Texas must go somewhere and the SEC is better than the Big12-3.
Posted on 8/28/11 at 10:21 pm to SunHog
Cool, maybe hog fans can unite with aggies as we do the warhymn in JerryWorld to show our united hatred of the longhorns.
Posted on 8/28/11 at 10:24 pm to TheCheshireHog
I know, I was mostly making a jab at this current season's recruiting. I don't really see how Arkansas will make a huge dent in Texas when we already play y'all in Dallas, and we've already got several 2012 commits with Arkansas offers despite y'all having been more successful recently.
You can already offer the SEC thing, now we can too. Maybe in the long run it makes a big difference, but in the short run I think the only way it happens is if we do absolutely terrible on the field, which is possible. Will be interesting to see though.
You can already offer the SEC thing, now we can too. Maybe in the long run it makes a big difference, but in the short run I think the only way it happens is if we do absolutely terrible on the field, which is possible. Will be interesting to see though.
Posted on 8/28/11 at 10:25 pm to SunHog
Sun pig...you really should seriously consider staying with your own kind, on the hog sites....you don't seem capable of fighting your way out of a paper bag over here....lol !
Posted on 8/28/11 at 10:30 pm to TheCheshireHog
Cheshire, the 5.7 comment was a SECr joke. I guessed it was missed since we're on CEB.
And I was a kid when the SWC broke up and a LSU fan. So I didn't follow the SWC or the Big XII until around 99
And I was a kid when the SWC broke up and a LSU fan. So I didn't follow the SWC or the Big XII until around 99
Posted on 8/28/11 at 10:32 pm to WoodlandsAg07
We don't really recruit much of Texas outside of the Dallas metroplex. It can help us there because there will be more media attention than before. Back in the day when we were in the SWC the Dallas papers had Arkansas stuff all the time because of our large alumni base there. Once we left that info completely dried up which hurt us more than you think.
Just like in sales you just want to make your presence be known. You don't have to hard sell your product, just make it noticeable at a quick glance when someone opens the sports page or check the news stations website. If people can see the Arkansas brand everyday then it will eventually help out.
I definitely don't think it will be an overnight change. I imagine long term we wouldn't see any significant gain for 10+ years but I can only think that it will help somewhere down the road.
We are never going to recruit better in Texas than A&M, Texas or OU regardless. Just like no one is going to recruit Arkansas better than us. At the end of the day your still the home school. But to just slightly increase the caliber of prospect from what we are currently getting is well worth the addition of A&M in my eyes.
Just like in sales you just want to make your presence be known. You don't have to hard sell your product, just make it noticeable at a quick glance when someone opens the sports page or check the news stations website. If people can see the Arkansas brand everyday then it will eventually help out.
I definitely don't think it will be an overnight change. I imagine long term we wouldn't see any significant gain for 10+ years but I can only think that it will help somewhere down the road.
We are never going to recruit better in Texas than A&M, Texas or OU regardless. Just like no one is going to recruit Arkansas better than us. At the end of the day your still the home school. But to just slightly increase the caliber of prospect from what we are currently getting is well worth the addition of A&M in my eyes.
This post was edited on 8/28/11 at 10:37 pm
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