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Your ideal staff (realistic)
Posted on 12/3/09 at 11:17 pm
Posted on 12/3/09 at 11:17 pm
Post on here who you would like to have considering current or realistic openings.
OC:
RB:
WR:
OL:
OC:
RB:
WR:
OL:
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Posted on 12/3/09 at 11:22 pm to OBUDan
idk "a lot" about OL and WR but from what I do know..
OC: Steve Kragthorpe
RB: Tommie Robinson
OC: Steve Kragthorpe
RB: Tommie Robinson
Posted on 12/3/09 at 11:32 pm to Acreboy
Posted on 12/3/09 at 11:41 pm to OBUDan
money talks..
Posted on 12/4/09 at 12:04 am to Acreboy
yeah, but does it talk to 26 years or whatever at 1 school 
surely he's been offered gigs before. he's put a lot of quality backs into the league...
surely he's been offered gigs before. he's put a lot of quality backs into the league...
Posted on 12/4/09 at 12:15 am to OBUDan
quote:
I like Kragthorpe a lot.
For what? I just don't like hiring anybody who was shite-canned. Even if it was at a higher position than you are hiring him at. I think it's an immediate lack of credibility with the players that would be hard to overcome.
Posted on 12/4/09 at 12:21 am to Hot Carl
quote:
For what? I just don't like hiring anybody who was shite-canned. Even if it was at a higher position than you are hiring him at. I think it's an immediate lack of credibility with the players that would be hard to overcome.
What about this?
Posted on 12/4/09 at 12:35 am to OBUDan
neither of those 3 was anywhere near the failure of Kragthorpe. Were any of those even technically fired? I'm not saying it couldn't work--clearly, it has before. I'm just saying it's a hurdle, and one we don't need to jump over. Kragthorpe's resume is not worth it.
Posted on 12/4/09 at 12:35 am to Hot Carl
quote:signed, Gregg Williams.
I just don't like hiring anybody who was shite-canned.
Some people just make better coordinators than HC's.
Posted on 12/4/09 at 12:59 am to Acreboy
quote:
signed, Gregg Williams.
Some people just make better coordinators than HC's.
I agree, but it's been several years since Greg Williams was fired for sucking. And his resume as a coordinator is much, much better than Kragthorpe's.
Posted on 12/4/09 at 2:01 am to OBUDan
Just based on coaches currently looking for jobs or on staff in transition:
WR: Rob Ianello
OL: Ron Prince
Uhhh...uhhh...
Co-OC: Chuck Long
Co-OC: Mark Mangino
Uhhh...uhhh...
RB: Tony Alford or Jay Johnson ... toss up ... I'll go with Alford
WR: Rob Ianello
OL: Ron Prince
Uhhh...uhhh...
Co-OC: Chuck Long
Co-OC: Mark Mangino
Uhhh...uhhh...
RB: Tony Alford or Jay Johnson ... toss up ... I'll go with Alford
Posted on 12/4/09 at 3:11 am to Acreboy
quote:
signed, Gregg Williams. Some people just make better coordinators than HC's.
I understand what you are coming from, but NFL is completely diff. People need to realize that.
Posted on 12/4/09 at 5:23 am to Hot Carl
quote:
I just don't like hiring anybody who was shite-canned.
Position coaches and coordinators are almost always let go when a head coach is fired, and has no bearing on how good a coach they are. Coaches like to install their own personnel. It's pretty much the norm.
Posted on 12/4/09 at 7:35 am to fishngrits
quote:
Position coaches and coordinators are almost always let go when a head coach is fired, and has no bearing on how good a coach they are. Coaches like to install their own personnel. It's pretty much the norm.
I completely understand that and am talking specifically about Kragthorpe who got shite-canned for being an absolute failure as a HC and running the Louisville football program into the ground. Clearly, that is much, much different than Chavis not being retained after Fat Phil was fired.
Posted on 12/4/09 at 8:17 am to OBUDan
OC
Todd Monken (Jags) (make assistant HC/OC/WR)
Steve Kragthorpe
Chuck Long
Dirk Koetter (Jags)
Clint Conque (Cent Ark)
Sonny Dykes (U Arizona)
WR
Tyke Tolbert (Bills) (LSU guy)
Rob Ianello (Notre Dame)
David Kelly (UCF)
Aaron Roderick (Utah)
OL
Josh Henson (UM)
Pete Mangurian (Bucs) (LSU guy, also coaches TE's)
Blake Miller (Utah) (LSU guy)
TE
Bernie Parmalee (Notre Dame)
Chris Scelfo (Falcons)
RB
Randy Jordan (A&M)
Tommie Robinson (UM)
Tony Alford (Notre Dame)
Frank Wilson (Tennessee)
Todd Monken (Jags) (make assistant HC/OC/WR)
Steve Kragthorpe
Chuck Long
Dirk Koetter (Jags)
Clint Conque (Cent Ark)
Sonny Dykes (U Arizona)
WR
Tyke Tolbert (Bills) (LSU guy)
Rob Ianello (Notre Dame)
David Kelly (UCF)
Aaron Roderick (Utah)
OL
Josh Henson (UM)
Pete Mangurian (Bucs) (LSU guy, also coaches TE's)
Blake Miller (Utah) (LSU guy)
TE
Bernie Parmalee (Notre Dame)
Chris Scelfo (Falcons)
RB
Randy Jordan (A&M)
Tommie Robinson (UM)
Tony Alford (Notre Dame)
Frank Wilson (Tennessee)
This post was edited on 12/4/09 at 8:20 am
Posted on 12/4/09 at 8:29 am to POTROAST
OC: Spurriar
DC: Saban
I win.
DC: Saban
I win.
Posted on 12/4/09 at 8:46 am to POTROAST
quote:
TE
Bernie Parmalee (Notre Dame)
Chris Scelfo (Falcons)
I was not expecting to read these two names
. I wouldnt want Scelfo anywhere around here. In LA he's just another loser of a coach from Tulane. Does Parmalee coach TEs now? He was a running back in the NFL, I didnt know he was coaching now.Posted on 12/4/09 at 8:52 am to Hot Carl
Gotcha. Didn't realize you were talking about Kragthorpe, specifically.
Posted on 12/4/09 at 10:22 am to fishngrits
OC: Curtis Johnson - WR coach at New Orleans
RB: Frank Wilson - RB coach at UT
WR: Rob Ianello - WR coach at Norte Dame
OL: Josh Henson - OL coach at Missouri
RB: Frank Wilson - RB coach at UT
WR: Rob Ianello - WR coach at Norte Dame
OL: Josh Henson - OL coach at Missouri
This post was edited on 12/4/09 at 10:24 am
Posted on 12/4/09 at 10:26 am to TL3
OC Mark Whipple
DC John Chavis
You said to be realistic....Chavis isn't going anywhere. And Whipple would be great here.
DC John Chavis
You said to be realistic....Chavis isn't going anywhere. And Whipple would be great here.
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