re: With the right off.-coordinator, could Orgeron be LSU's best hire.

So... because Les built this team he'all deserve all the credit for the next guy who comes in and turns these kids into champions, -a feat Les has been incapable of as of late???

I can agree, O's record as a head coach is horrible. If I hadn't heard the in depth discussion a few years back, I promise I would be right there with you guys. My point is he is going to surprise folks and when he does, I feel he will be as good a candidate as we can get to keep the momentum rolling.

Les Miles didn't build the team by his self, the coaches around him helped. Many of those who helped convince the kids to go to LSU are still there and the team will continue to be built upon the shoulders of tremendous atheletes. The quality of in state talent for LSU makes the program an envy to most every head coach. It's a program that can build itself but needs properly managed - the stuff O is doing now (besides opening practices to media) is new. He didn't do the family meals at Ole Miss... he didn't give the control of players to the coaches... he didn't do half of what he is doing now. The stuff he does now is part of a recipe for success, it shows that he isn't just running off at the mouth about having changed.

I'll be thrilled with a Tom Herman hire - I'll be very happy with an Ed Orgeron hire (due to personal experiences with him discussing this kind of stuff) or just as excited if Aranda got it (with no head coaching experience)... I'd be ok with Fisher and several other folks and very disappointed with a vast majority of coaches.

I understand where the No to O crowd is coming from all I can do though is speak on my experiences and what I feel is a well informed opinion of how successful I feel he can be.