re: With the right off.-coordinator, could Orgeron be LSU's best hire.

LOL y'all just continue to ignore the facts we've posted in lieu of baseless emotion.

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he maybe even better than any possible replacement. 

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No. No he's not.

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"Best practice ever!" That's a wrap guys, draft the contracts I guess. I swear you guys are just as retarded as everyone thinks we are. Thanks.

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I could use the same sarcasm on LSU's other possible coaching replacements, "best offense ever", will certainly need one after coach O and Aranda both leave LSU's program. Complimenting coach O seems to be heresy among some tiger fans, you people are nutz!

Sometimes it's the right guy placed in the right situation. In 5 years at Mich St. Saban had one season where his team won more than 7 games. He amassed an amazing bowl record of 0-3 with losses in the mighty Independence, Aloha and Sun bowls.

So who's the Nostredamus that knew Saban would evolve into what some call the greatest college coach in history? Dantonio has had more success at Mich St and it's not even close.

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I'm all for hoping Coach O does well, but the people that thing he should be the first stop in our coaching search are idiots. What makes you so sure Herman/Fisher wouldn't do whatever it takes to keep at least Aranda?

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I'm not saying we should be all in for O, but there are a lot of folks that simply see his failure at Ole Miss (and it was a failure) and basically want to give the janitor right of refusal before O is considered.

Herman should absolutely be considered although he likely will get a better offer from Texas. Herman and Aranda have strong connections and that right there makes his hire very attractive. It would likely keep Aranda here longer.

As for O I just think people should keep an open mind. If anyone thinks he hasn't come in and made drastic changes in coaching philosophy and team culture they are being willfully ignorant. He stated this week he wants to recruit pro-style QBs. Imagine that? A pro-style QB to go with a pro-style offense. He's openly admitted his early coaching mistakes. Something Miles never did. I know a lot of fans are waiting for him to make a mistake or the team to lose to say "see O sucks". I'm more interested in "how" the team plays and of course outcome.

Herman lost to Navy (But Herman hung 33 points on OU - OU is giving up an average of 36 points per game)
Jimbo lost 63-20 to Louisville and lost to UNC
Fedora (another coach in the running) just lost at home 34-3 to Va Tech

Would Tiger nation accept any of those losses? I've seen people say "well Jimbo has checked out at FL St". So we want a coach that checks out on his team?

Just a little food for thought. Maybe we need to let this season play out and examine all of our options carefully.

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What Coach O is good at is recruiting, he's not the greatest at X's and O's. Does that sound familiar to you? (Hint: Les Miles) The difference is Coach O is willing to step aside and let people smarter than him do what they get paid to do. If we're willing to pay $10m to buyout a coach, we'd be stupid to replace him with a motivator/recruiter "players coach" type which is almost the exact same thing we had with Les. If we're paying $10m to buyout a coach we better go out and get the best option we have, the smartest guy in the room type.

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Looks like he's had multiple stints as a position coach. He's not a DC, we have Aranda to do that. He's not an OC, we have Ensminger until we explore options. I honestly don't want my HC micromanaging the X's and O's. That's what Miles did. O pushed for more film study, he pushed for multiple formations, he decided how practices will run, he decided to sit Fournette, he has called for recruiting pro-style QBs. He's changed the team without scrapping the team (I know, 1 game, 3 weeks. He's willing to learn form past and present coaches. Sometimes the smartest guy in the room is the guy that knows he's NOT the smartest guy in the room. It took Saban years to give in and accept a change in offensive philosophy.

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Sometimes the smartest guy in the room is the guy that knows he's NOT the smartest guy in the room. It took Saban years to give in and accept a change in offensive philosophy.

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That's completely true, I honestly wouldn't mind having Coach O as a HC IF we did not pay $10m to get Les out. However, paying the buyout to promote Coach O if there are other options on the table is absolutely absurd. How many top tier programs have a HC like you described?

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Comparatively we know O will not be consulted by NASA anytime in the future

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I would pay good money to see an Armageddon type movie where NASA requires Coach O and a team of misfits to save the world.

If O beats Alabama i'll wager a ton of the people against him in this thread will change their mind pretty quick.

O and Kiffin are close

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The best coaches in the country are all high level Xs and Os guys. The CEO head coach is dying off big time. Name me one?

Think about this. If your HC is not a gameplanner, you have to have a subperb OC and DC. Its a must if you want to be successful. That's very difficult. Its too easy to strike out.

Saban and Meyer have gone through numerous DCs and OCs respectively. And they have all succeeded. Because of the HC.

Its much easier to get one good coordinator than 2.

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I don't necessarily disagree but there are always other variables. Bama has the top recruiting class every year and OSU is top 5 as well. They also have the ability to hire the top OCs and DCs in the country.

We have done that with Aranda and the hire is paying off.

As for X's and O's Saban spent most of his career as a position coach. His lone coordinator position was as a DC with the Browns under Belichek and Saban jokes that they were both so bad they were "run out of Ohio."