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Posted on 1/11/11 at 10:25 am to
Posted by More beer please
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Posted on 1/11/11 at 10:25 am to
Excuse me oh mighty one who knows for a fact LSU cant win another NC with Les


Why dont you just tell Joe who you want as a the HC and we will all put our support behind him
Posted by Bubba Bexley
Member since May 2007
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Posted on 1/11/11 at 10:26 am to
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It looks so bad on the university if we dont get that money. You have to consider that even though the athletic departmet is seperate the university as a whole is in a huge budget crisis and cuts are coming left and right. Then need to get that money to save face


Not if you make it up by paying someone less money for the same job.
Posted by sec13rowBBseat28
St George, LA
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 1/11/11 at 10:26 am to
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Say Miles actually wants to go to UM, but UM says they can't get the extra 1.25 million for the buyout.
If Les really wants to go to UM and UM refuses to pay the buyout, make Les pay it himself. He can afford it.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
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Posted on 1/11/11 at 10:27 am to
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I didn't say it was a good argument. It's called game theory and contract negotiations.


you're way over the heads here...most have only negotiated for a used lawnmower in exchange for an antique BB gun.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46613 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 10:28 am to
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Not if you make it up by paying someone less money for the same job.


Ok you tell our high paying boosters we gave away that amount of money and got nothing in return but a smaller contract for a worse coach
Posted by Bubba Bexley
Member since May 2007
3579 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 10:29 am to
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Ok you tell our high paying boosters we gave away that amount of money and got nothing in return but a smaller contract for a worse coach


How do you know the boosters would consider the replacement to be a worse coach, without knowing who that might be?
Posted by HeadSlash
TEAM LIVE BADASS - St. GEORGE
Member since Aug 2006
56645 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 10:30 am to
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After the Tenn game people were wanting to raise money to pay his buyout and fire him.



After the 09 Ole Miss game people wanted him fired on the spot.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46613 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 10:30 am to
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How do you know the boosters would consider the replacement to be a worse coach, without knowing who that might be?


If he is better and or just as good, why would we pay him significantly less?
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 10:31 am to
lol. I realize, but that doesn't mean these things don't need to be said. If anyone thinks it's a gaurantee that UM pays the full/some of the buyout, they're delusional.

You don't keep an employee around that wants to be somewhere else. That's why every coach under contract gets permission to speak with another school.
Posted by Gekko
Costa Rica
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 1/11/11 at 10:31 am to
and still nothing has changed.... Don't out your hand in the snake cage more than once
Posted by Bubba Bexley
Member since May 2007
3579 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 10:32 am to
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If he is better and or just as good, why would we pay him significantly less?


Because he hasn't won a championship yet. The elite salary status should be earned on the field.
This post was edited on 1/11/11 at 10:33 am
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
22017 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 10:32 am to
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Say Miles actually wants to go to UM, but UM says they can't get the extra 1.25 million for the buyout.


I don't care if Michigan can't or just won't pay the buyout. It's not a contract between LSU and Michigan, it's a contract between LSU and Les Miles. If he leaves for Michigan, LSU should hold Les to the stipulations, just like Les would hold LSU if he was fired.
This post was edited on 1/11/11 at 10:33 am
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46613 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 10:33 am to
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If anyone thinks it's a gaurantee that UM pays the full/some of the buyout, they're delusional.


Right so why is the buyout there in the first place?
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 10:39 am to
For giggles? I don't know. Just in case they want to hold them to it, I suppose.

The contract states Miles is the coach through 2014. I see that's not necessarily being held to.
This post was edited on 1/11/11 at 10:42 am
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 10:40 am to
So why aren't they holding him to the years of the contract? Why are they even letting him talk to UM at this point?
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
89858 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 10:43 am to
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If Michigan cannot afford the buyout, they cannot afford the discussion.


This.

If you can't afford the $5 cover charge, you've got no business being out drinking. Stay your arse at home.
Posted by More beer please
Member since Feb 2010
46613 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 10:43 am to
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Because he hasn't won a championship yet.


So? Les has and most want him out now
Posted by Bubba Bexley
Member since May 2007
3579 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 10:46 am to
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So? Les has and most want him out now


So you we should automatically pay the potential replacement the same or more than Miles is getting to prove that person is an equivalent hire? You're really talking in circles and not making much sense as to the point you are trying to get across.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
22017 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 10:50 am to
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So why aren't they holding him to the years of the contract? Why are they even letting him talk to UM at this point?


Because of your point...you don't want to keep him here if he really wants to be elsewhere. But, the buyout is reasonable and affordable for either Les Miles or Michigan. shite, they paid most, if not all, of RR's $4 million buyout to West Virginia, so we even have precedent that they can afford it. LSU shouldn't budge on the Michigan buyout.
Posted by jturn17
Member since Jan 2011
4978 posts
Posted on 1/11/11 at 10:57 am to
I'm not disagreeing with anything you're saying. But a negotiation is a negotiation, and 1 side is going to blink.

Does UM say f it and go get Hoke instead over 1.25m? Probably not. But LSU may or may not believe that.
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