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re: Why did UK wait so long to fire Stoops
Posted on 12/1/25 at 11:34 am to Ponchy Tiger
Posted on 12/1/25 at 11:34 am to Ponchy Tiger
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I think they will owe the full buy out within 30 days?
Again, Stoops re-negotiated for a longer term buyout in the last 48 hours.
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Posted on 12/1/25 at 12:04 pm to BluegrassBelle
Oh, interesting. I've done some depositions with his dad in Louisville. Didn't realize he played at UK.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 12:06 pm to Heaphus
Yep. Was on the 1984 team with Joker Phillips that beat Florida (the last time before Stoops broke the streak).
Posted on 12/1/25 at 2:13 pm to moneyg
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You think LSU was going to sit back and allow Florida to hire Lane or vic versa? They are driven by landing the guy they want.
Yes, but the agreement with Kiffin was made 10 days ago but not announced until yesterday. If not for the calendar, LSU and Kiffin could have waited until after the playoffs. There would have been no urgency to get things done now.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 2:45 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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Yes, but the agreement with Kiffin was made 10 days ago but not announced until yesterday. If not for the calendar, LSU and Kiffin could have waited until after the playoffs. There would have been no urgency to get things done now.
In reality, LSU was willing to allow Lane to coach through the playoffs. What they needed was to get him to agree and formally resign from Ole Miss.
The absolute driver for any school in the market to ensure that they are landing their coach AND not getting left behind in the hiring process. You can't sit there in limbo while every other school starts hiring. If you paid attention during this process, that was the most common concern...how long can you wait on Lane.
While pushing back the signing date makes sense, I think you are fooling yourself into believing it will prevent this situation.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 2:50 pm to nicholastiger
Have to imagine the monumental loss to Louisville was at least some of the motivation?
Posted on 12/1/25 at 3:03 pm to moneyg
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While pushing back the signing date makes sense, I think you are fooling yourself into believing it will prevent this situation.
When an agreement is signed and when it is announced/takes effect are two different things. If there were no urgency to get a coach on campus recruiting and working the transfer portal, no coach would have to leave his current team until their season was over.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 3:26 pm to nicholastiger
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Why did UK wait so long to fire Stoops
Simple answer to this question doesn't require a lot of intellect or digging - Kentucky is first, and foremost, a basketball school. Football at UK is like the warm up act before the headliner comes onstage.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 3:39 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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When an agreement is signed and when it is announced/takes effect are two different things
No offense, but you weren't paying attention. #1, Coaches are contractually obligated to give notice before they sign anything. #2, all you had to do is watch LSU between Wednesday and Sunday of last week to know that LSU wasn't comfortable (even though they had been given assurances.) That's because until the coach notifies his university and puts the wheels in motion, there's pretty much nothing that can be done to ensure he actually moves on.
LSU wasn't 100% sure Kiffin was coming until Sunday...despite all of the assurances.
If signing day and the transfer portal were on signing day, you'd still have the same rush to land your next coach if you were in the market.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 4:27 pm to moneyg
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If signing day and the transfer portal were on signing day, you'd still have the same rush to land your next coach if you were in the market.
None of this happened when there was no transfer portal and no early signing period. Coaches finished out their seasons and then moved on to their new schools. There is no question that anti-tampering rules would make things even more orderly, but I have no doubt the mad dash to get coaches on campus before their season is done would go away by removing the transfer window and ESD.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 5:06 pm to MikeTheTiger71
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None of this happened when there was no transfer portal and no early signing period. Coaches finished out their seasons and then moved on to their new schools. There is no question that anti-tampering rules would make things even more orderly, but I have no doubt the mad dash to get coaches on campus before their season is done would go away by removing the transfer window and ESD.
Times are changing. The money being thrown around is higher and the stakes are higher.
For example, you never saw coaches getting fired with 50M buyouts either.
Ask yourself this question. Based on your comments, knowing LSU was ok with Kiffin finishing at Ole Miss and knowing Kiffin wanted to finish at Ole Miss, why didn't Kiffin just quietly sign with LSU (like you suggested) and announce it at the end of the season?
The answer is obvious and you can see it on this very board. People were melting even when Kiffin had given us a quiet commitment because everyone knew that if he backed out, LSU was going to quickly be in trouble.
In the end, coaching changes are a market. And, if there is incentive to sign someone early, it will happen. Once that ball starts rolling, there's no stopping it.
Posted on 12/1/25 at 6:56 pm to moneyg
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why didn't Kiffin just quietly sign with LSU (like you suggested) and announce it at the end of the season?
Because OM wouldn’t let him continue without signing the new contract extension and because LSU still expected him to work the transfer portal for them at the same time.
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