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re: Where does LSU rank as a coaching destination?

Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:16 pm to
Posted by iluvlsusports
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:16 pm to
But how many people does Ohio split these recruits with? How many go to Michigan?
Posted by Porkchop Express
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:17 pm to
LSU is not in the top five.

Historically LSU isn't in the top 10.

Posted by elprez00
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:17 pm to
quote:

2. Has a state to themselves for recruiting - that knocks off Bama, Michigan, USC, Florida, FSU, Georgia, and Texas

No it doesn't.

You have to look at this in terms of two things: Prestige and the ability to recruit nationally.

Bama, OSU, Michigan, Texas, and Notre Dame have been that way forever. LSU has only been that way recently.

LSU (and Louisiana in general) is in the middle of one of the most fertile talent pools in history. LSU has put more people in the NFL than any other school in the last 5 years, right? Isn't LA also #1 in this as well? Add to the fact that LSU arguably get first dibs on instate talent, and that equates to a very attractive job.

If you bring in another coach that wins with the same rate as our previous 2 plus adds championships, then I think LSU can legitimately make an argument for entering the conversation of a top 5 all time job.

There are a ton of coaches that would kill for that office on N. Stadium Drive right now. But to say 100 years of CFB doesn't mean shite, considering how CFB is chock full of tradition, is just asinine.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:18 pm to
yea you are stupid
Posted by elit4ce05
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:21 pm to
That's not the question here. The statement was made about the recruiting "hotbed". Facts just show Ohio is top 5. How many from any state that goes to an in-state school is another discussion.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:23 pm to
stuff that happened 100 years ago isn't as meaningful as stuff that happened the last 10 years or so.

ND outside of 2012 has been complete and utter shite since what the late 80s/ early 90s.

they kept getting better bowls than they should based on names and it kept ending with ND being on the wrong side of the confessional booth.

all those other teams listed don't have to go national, ND does and that is bad news for any program in this day and age. I would put money that everyone but ND has a boatload of instate vs out of state guys. Bama might be an exception due to how they have recruited but Im pretty sure they get a nice chunk of alabama kids they want.

The only team where 100 years worth of tradition actually matters is Bama because they keep it relevant by winning every decade. Michigan hasn't won a title since what Charles Woodson who is now retired from the NFL. ND even longer, their tradition is fading. ND is in real trouble at this point.
Posted by iluvlsusports
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:26 pm to
How is calling your team a blue blood and inferring that LSU is not a top tier program anything other than blind fan passion? You think LSU isn't a National brand? We're on tv every week too, people from all over the world have a visit to Tiger Stadium on their bucket list. Just look at this site, this is not an Ohio State site, yet here you are, as well as people from all over the world.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:30 pm to
I don't think there is any debating that TOSU is a blue blood. LSU probably should be a blue blood but for some reason our admin never claimed titles like other schools did in the day. Then as football started to really grow we were in a down cycle due to bad hires.

LSU is knocking on the door of blue blood, we are a clear top 10 historical team by pretty much any list that has any credit. I think another decade or two with another title or two and you see us included in it.

The good news for us is being a blue blood isn't the same as being a top destination. LSU, UGA, UF all right outside blue bloods but arguably they are destination jobs.

eta i do find it weird that most of the blue blood list stop at 8 instead of 10. I would think 10 is more reasonable since you have 5 power conferences. that then gets interesting since only USC is in it from pac12 so that opens the door for what would likely be 3 sec teams into that mix. Then it gets even more interesting because plenty consider Tenn to be second in the sec to bama but are they really more blue blooded than LSU and UF considering recent history.
This post was edited on 9/26/16 at 1:34 pm
Posted by elit4ce05
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:31 pm to
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Just look at this site, this is not an Ohio State site, yet here you are, as well as people from all over the world.


"I'm picking LSU because they have a website."

Things never said by a top recruit or a possible HC.
Posted by iluvlsusports
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:32 pm to
And LSU is number 6 in recruits, which they have to themselves, so it damn well is relevant to a discussion where my premise is that Recruiting is what makes LSU a top 5 coaching destination. But you and Ohio State people for some reason refuse to put LSU in that tier. Because they aren't a blue blood? Give me a break!
Posted by S
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:33 pm to
SC is not nearly as prestigious a job RIGHT NOW as you think

Posted by iluvlsusports
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:33 pm to
You're pathetic if you thought that's what I was saying.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:36 pm to
not right now due to admin but it has everything that makes it a destination. Also it has the look of down right now which can be intriguing to the next up and coming great coach.

Posted by TeddyPadillac
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:36 pm to
quote:

Bama, OSU, Michigan, Texas, and Notre Dame have been that way forever. LSU has only been that way recently.



Bama went 17 years with just 1 conference championship before Saban's in 2009. They were kind of shitty for a while.
Notre Dame hasn't won a championship in 28 years. They havne't won a meaningful bowl game in 24 years. They have been embarrassed in many bowl games since then.
Michigan has gone 12 years without a conference championship. they have 3 bowl wins in those 12 years.

Kids born in the year 2000 don't give a shite about what these schools did in 1970.


quote:

Prestige and the ability to recruit nationally.



Notre Dame, Michigan and OSU aren't recruiting kids away from LSU and Bama.

Posted by John Cena
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:37 pm to
No one wants to live in ohio. That place is miserable
Posted by S
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:38 pm to
The admin doesn't even care about the program (see our resident usc fans posts)

They need a gerry Dinardo type hire first
Posted by elit4ce05
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:39 pm to
I'm just stating facts. LSU ranks #7 (83) behind Bama (84) where Florida turns out about 320 recuits per year. Lsu is definitely top 10 but not top 5.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:40 pm to
yep they aren't coming in here and just raiding the south anymore. LSU has secured its border since 2000. Dinardo started to put up a fence, Saban built it into a solid wall and les even kept it going. Now Saban found a back door in north la but once he goes it closes again and we just can't take every instate kid.

This type of thing is why ND is in such trouble, LSU and Bama have locked down the southeast, so they can't just get anyone that they would like. TOSU/Michigan have control of their states for the most part so that hot bed is gone, Cali is kinda open right now but you can't sustain your program on only national recruits.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:42 pm to
if that is true then i think that drops USC down, i didn't know how much the admin had stopped caring about football.

they can easily regain their spot though considering USC will always have cash and resources. them not being willing to use them drops them down though.
Posted by iluvlsusports
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Posted on 9/26/16 at 1:46 pm to
LSU is a top coaching destination, a top tier program and a top all time program in several categories. This is how it stands TODAY. Right now, in the present.
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