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What makes the Tennessee job so unattractive?
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:28 pm
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:28 pm
As someone who doesn't know much about Tennessee, what makes the job so unattractive?
-Poor administration and fan support?
-Revolving doors of Athletic Directors?
-No money?
-Poor recruiting grounds?
-Constant instability?
-Is Knoxville a terrible place to relocate or raise a family?
On the surface, everything looks great. Tennessee appears to be a vertical move to most of the coaches they have been targeting (Gundy - Oklahoma State, Brohm - Purdue, Cutcliff - Duke).
It wasn't that far removed that they were beating a strong Michigan team in 2002 and winning the SEC East in 2007. What's going on here? How did they get to this point?
-Poor administration and fan support?
-Revolving doors of Athletic Directors?
-No money?
-Poor recruiting grounds?
-Constant instability?
-Is Knoxville a terrible place to relocate or raise a family?
On the surface, everything looks great. Tennessee appears to be a vertical move to most of the coaches they have been targeting (Gundy - Oklahoma State, Brohm - Purdue, Cutcliff - Duke).
It wasn't that far removed that they were beating a strong Michigan team in 2002 and winning the SEC East in 2007. What's going on here? How did they get to this point?
This post was edited on 11/29/17 at 10:31 pm
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Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:31 pm to Forkbeard3777
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What makes the Tennessee job so unattractive?
Did you see what those water heads did Sunday?
They essentially placed their own program on probation
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:33 pm to Forkbeard3777
This post was edited on 11/29/17 at 10:36 pm
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:33 pm to Forkbeard3777
Have to play Mullen every year.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:34 pm to jlnoles79
An incompetent AD that can be influenced by a Twitter mob. And that's just for starters.
How can you trust a guy like that to ever have your back when the going gets tough?
How can you trust a guy like that to ever have your back when the going gets tough?
This post was edited on 11/29/17 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:34 pm to Forkbeard3777
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Poor administration
This right here. Our AD is a puppet for the Haslam family, who try to run everything. I mean, we tried to hire Schiano before even contacting Gundy, or any other good coach.
Stability has obviously not been great lately, but I disagree with everything else on your list.
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Fan support
Our fans are so passionate that we ran a coach out of town before the ink was dry.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:35 pm to Forkbeard3777
Nothing sucks like a big orange.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:39 pm to Forkbeard3777
The AD tried to hire a coach, the fan base found out it wasn't Jon Gruden so they took to twitter and accused a man of covering up child rape, even though a year long investigation by the FBI didn't find evidence of such. Not to mention retarded politicians from the state got involved in dragging the aforementioned coach's name into the mud.
You think any coach wants to get involved in that circus?
You think any coach wants to get involved in that circus?
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:40 pm to Forkbeard3777
They just let clay travis dictate their coaching search.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:40 pm to jlnoles79
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Did you see what those water heads did Sunday?
They essentially placed their own program on probation
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:43 pm to Forkbeard3777
Rockytop… Like 1000 times in a row every freaking weekend! Enough said
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:44 pm to cj35
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cj35
Your avatar is driving me nuts. Is that a LSU intrasquad in front of a packed house? Because that's Wayne Sims, Geert Hammick, and Dennis Tracey guarding Chris Jackson in opposite colored uniforms.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 10:56 pm to Forkbeard3777
I have been there several times. It has a lot going for it. Beautiful area, nice people, top notch facilities. The main thing it has going against it is on your list - poor recruiting grounds. They have to go a long way from home to find recruits.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 11:13 pm to Forkbeard3777
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What makes the Tennessee job so unattractive?
Posted on 11/29/17 at 11:16 pm to Forkbeard3777
Horrible Admin that is prefers UT become a top notch research school.
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Good Ole Boys Club style boosters.
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'The Legion of the Miserable' or as you may know them as...the fans
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Where UT is today
Btw- anyone saying UT has issues recruiting cause the state historically has low talent has no clue what they are talking. UT markets itself, and has top talent beds within 3-4 hrs from campus. UT perfected national recruiting decades ago.
Instability only came from what kiffin did. Thats the problem. They had 2 coaches for 20-25 yrs. UT hasnt figured out how to handle the current coaching landscape.
Knoxville is a nice small city with river/lakes/mountains near by. Humidity can suck.
Facilities are top notch, and hard to beat. Unless you compare it to stupid things that schools like utx do that are just over doing it.
Btw - in case you didnt know it UT and mich are OGs of the arms race in cfb. Going back and forth in the stadium renovations back in the 90s.
UT just needs to find that one coach that can take the tools we have to build the machine. Ie UT needs to find it's meyer, saban, and what mich is hoping is harbaugh.
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Good Ole Boys Club style boosters.
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'The Legion of the Miserable' or as you may know them as...the fans
=
Where UT is today
Btw- anyone saying UT has issues recruiting cause the state historically has low talent has no clue what they are talking. UT markets itself, and has top talent beds within 3-4 hrs from campus. UT perfected national recruiting decades ago.
Instability only came from what kiffin did. Thats the problem. They had 2 coaches for 20-25 yrs. UT hasnt figured out how to handle the current coaching landscape.
Knoxville is a nice small city with river/lakes/mountains near by. Humidity can suck.
Facilities are top notch, and hard to beat. Unless you compare it to stupid things that schools like utx do that are just over doing it.
Btw - in case you didnt know it UT and mich are OGs of the arms race in cfb. Going back and forth in the stadium renovations back in the 90s.
UT just needs to find that one coach that can take the tools we have to build the machine. Ie UT needs to find it's meyer, saban, and what mich is hoping is harbaugh.
This post was edited on 11/29/17 at 11:22 pm
Posted on 11/29/17 at 11:19 pm to Forkbeard3777
Their recruiting is terrible. UT has never been popular in the western half of the state. They don’t recruit Atlanta well anymore. They are in a spot.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 11:37 pm to Disgeaux Bob
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Rockytop… Like 1000 times in a row every freaking weekend! Enough said
Shouldn't it say rock bottom instead?
Posted on 11/29/17 at 11:41 pm to Forkbeard3777
Much like Nebraska, they are utterly dependent on out of state recruiting and therefore they probably have the lowest floor of any of the traditional SEC powers in today's game.
Their fanbase is several orders of magnitude crazier than Nebraska's though, and the Haslam/booster situation has made the job toxic in coaching circles I guess.
Their fanbase is several orders of magnitude crazier than Nebraska's though, and the Haslam/booster situation has made the job toxic in coaching circles I guess.
Posted on 11/29/17 at 11:41 pm to AUCE05
Lol Butch Jones was pulling in top 10 classes, any coach worth a frick can recruit well at UT
Posted on 11/29/17 at 11:44 pm to AUCE05
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UT has never been popular in the western half of the state.
LSU fan granted but I have never for even a second understood the UT/Memphis dynamic as far as recruiting goes
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