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What is the riff between Les Miles and Lloyd Carr about?
Posted on 11/20/07 at 7:45 pm
Posted on 11/20/07 at 7:45 pm
I have heard is has something to do with recruiting but I heard four host mention today taht Carr hates Miles and if he has input they will not give him an offer. Two guys on Sirius didn't think Michigan would really make an offer that would be acceptable ans said a lot of key alumini hate Miles too. (CAN"T remember the host names) 12-2 pm todayI have never known anyone to hate "les" and he is one of nicest guys I know in College football would doesn't really reward being a decent guy, (EXAMPLE SABAN, SPURRIER ET AL)
Does anyone know the story behind this?
Does anyone know the story behind this?
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Posted on 11/20/07 at 7:49 pm to Jackfish28
Miles left Michigan when Carr got the head job (so I've heard) and then Miles stole Michigan verbal commitment Jai Eugene two years ago. Even Bo called Les on that and said he disapproved (once again that has been said).
Posted on 11/20/07 at 7:51 pm to Jackfish28
Les left Michigan when Gary Moeller was fired because he didn't want to be Carr's assistant.
Posted on 11/20/07 at 7:59 pm to Choupique19
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This post was edited on 11/20/07 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 11/20/07 at 7:59 pm to ThePoo
Thanks guys, that helps but why didn't he want to be Carr's assistant? Sounds like they had run in before Carr ever got there to me.
Posted on 11/20/07 at 7:59 pm to Choupique19
did Miles actually work to steal Jai or did he decommit from Michigan because of the birth of his baby so he be close to home
This post was edited on 11/20/07 at 8:02 pm
Posted on 11/20/07 at 8:01 pm to Jackfish28
I don't know that he didn't want to work for Carr. I think he was offered the OC job at Okie State and took it rather than be the OL coach at Michigan.
Posted on 11/20/07 at 8:02 pm to milton01
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did Miles actually work to steal Jai or did he decommit from Michigan because of the birth of his baby so he cold be close to home
One would have to assume that Jai did not commit to Michigan 9 months before changing his mind. I would guess that he knew about his upcoming child when he committed to UM in the first place.
Posted on 11/20/07 at 8:03 pm to Cash
Wasn't he the OL coach at Dallas before even dealing with Okie State I don't know that's why I'm asking
Posted on 11/20/07 at 8:04 pm to milton01
He was OC at Okie State, then tight ends coach at Dallas, then HC at Okie State.
Posted on 11/20/07 at 8:05 pm to Cash
ok thanks
Posted on 11/20/07 at 8:30 pm to Choupique19
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Miles stole Michigan verbal commitment Jai Eugene two years ago. Even Bo called Les on that and said he disapproved (once again that has been said).
I hate this bullshite about Miles stealing a Louisiana boy from Michigan. frick Michigan for trying to come into our backyard and take one of our five star recruits. Jai was ranked as the number 1 overall CB in 2006. LSU should never lose a kid like this.
Posted on 11/20/07 at 8:45 pm to bengalbabe4eva
The other thing that bothers me about Carr's "beef" is that is why he's out of touch with today's world of recruiting.
If the worst Miles did was call on the guy after he committed to MI, then that ain't nothing compared to the bullets fired out there on the recruiting trail today.
This ain't your father's gentlemanly game of recruiting any more. The world don't run according to Carr's rules. That's why he's done, and he knows it.
Go Tigers
If the worst Miles did was call on the guy after he committed to MI, then that ain't nothing compared to the bullets fired out there on the recruiting trail today.
This ain't your father's gentlemanly game of recruiting any more. The world don't run according to Carr's rules. That's why he's done, and he knows it.
Go Tigers
Posted on 11/20/07 at 8:56 pm to mrbayoublu
Miles once said after a big loss, not sure exactly which one, some time back, that Carr was not the right coach for Michigan to a reporter. Jai backed out of his commitment to Michigan after his son's birthday because he realized that he wanted to stay closer to home. I know Jai, and he loves his son very much. It had nothing to do with anything Miles did to change his mind.
Posted on 11/20/07 at 9:00 pm to bengalbabe4eva
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I hate this bullshite about Miles stealing a Louisiana boy from Michigan. frick Michigan for trying to come into our backyard and take one of our five star recruits. Jai was ranked as the number 1 overall CB in 2006. LSU should never lose a kid like this.
Don't shoot the messenger, I was just stating what has been mentioned as part of the rift between the two.
Posted on 11/20/07 at 10:00 pm to Choupique19
i think it's the perception that miles is unconventional and willing to bend the rules while carr is as traditional and old school as they get. of course i'm pulling all of this out of my arse.
Posted on 11/20/07 at 10:09 pm to Jackfish28
I have Sirius and for the life of me can't find a good college football show.
can you recommend a time and channel for me to listen to?
many thanks
can you recommend a time and channel for me to listen to?
many thanks
Posted on 11/20/07 at 10:11 pm to lsujj2008
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Miles once said after a big loss, not sure exactly which one, some time back, that Carr was not the right coach for Michigan to a reporter. Jai backed out of his commitment to Michigan after his son's birthday because he realized that he wanted to stay closer to home. I know Jai, and he loves his son very much. It had nothing to do with anything Miles did to change his mind.
.... so you see, kids. Unprotected sex is great. Geaux Tigers. Nite-nite.
Posted on 11/20/07 at 10:14 pm to AlejandroInHouston
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have Sirius and for the life of me can't find a good college football show.
can you recommend a time and channel for me to listen to?
many thanks
If you're up between 5:00 a.m - 8:00 a.m, you can listen to Rivals Radio on Sirius 123
Here is their website:
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Posted on 11/20/07 at 10:20 pm to bengalbabe4eva
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hate this bullshite about Miles stealing a Louisiana boy from Michigan. frick Michigan for trying to come into our backyard and take one of our five star recruits. Jai was ranked as the number 1 overall CB in 2006. LSU should never lose a kid like this
Ok..then he stole highly rated Joe Barksdale from Michigan..
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